P Freddy Peralta could be on the move

[Bomber1]

Good, hope he's traded.

Eventually having to deal off these great pitchers (Hader, Burnes and now perhaps Peralta) is going to catch up w/them.

Toss in B. Woodruff has a $20M mutual option they likely decline and that staff would look bad if Peralta leaves.

You’ve been saying the Brewers are going to collapse for the past 5 years.

Maybe one of these years you’ll be correct.

True a lot of people say it every offseason season the brewers are done they traded this player they lost that player they are done they just keep winning. But yea if they say it every offseason eventually they will be right

I said that the last two years, not five like that a z z wipe on "ignore" claims.

That's why he's on "ignore", the (bleep) makes c r a p up.

Yes like when you said “Bill DeWitt owes it to the fans and owes it to Goldschmidt to sign Scherzer”.

As I’ve said before, only one of us is a proven liar on here; which of us claimed to be a “4-year starter at Mizzou”?

You’re a lying clown who for some reason always feels it’s important to show others that you thought of something before they posted it.

[riff raff]

Good, hope he's traded.

Eventually having to deal off these great pitchers (Hader, Burnes and now perhaps Peralta) is going to catch up w/them.

Toss in B. Woodruff has a $20M mutual option they likely decline and that staff would look bad if Peralta leaves.

You’ve been saying the Brewers are going to collapse for the past 5 years.

Maybe one of these years you’ll be correct.

True a lot of people say it every offseason season the brewers are done they traded this player they lost that player they are done they just keep winning. But yea if they say it every offseason eventually they will be right

I said that the last two years, not five like that a z z wipe on "ignore" claims.

That's why he's on "ignore", the (bleep) makes c r a p up.

How long is your ignore list ? aka posters that have caught you making stuff up
Clown

[ramfandan]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

[CorneliusWolfe]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

[Ozziesfan41]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

It’s why you need a front of office with a good judge of talent or you end up like mo signing terrible extensions. At least he was smart enough not to sign Gorman to an extension

[dugoutrex]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

well, they make the playoffs but are knocked out faster than Braun contaminating a vile of (bleep)

[CorneliusWolfe]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

well, they make the playoffs but are knocked out faster than Braun contaminating a vile of (bleep)

…that’s pretty fast!

[CorneliusWolfe]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

It’s why you need a front of office with a good judge of talent or you end up like mo signing terrible extensions. At least he was smart enough not to sign Gorman to an extension

Yeah, Mo was criticized for sitting on his hands, but at least he did less harm when he did nothing.

[2ninr]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

well, they make the playoffs but are knocked out faster than Braun contaminating a vile of (bleep)

Who knew people could actually be funny on ct.

[craviduce]

Brewers are smart trade him in the offseason instead of being dumb and waiting until the trade deadline when his value is down

That’s not always the case.

Also, I’m guessing since the brewers are good, if they open the season w FP, it means they’re keeping him.

There has to be a market for the position. Time of year doesn't matter.

[renostl]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

I'm not sure Matt Arnold would have sign Yelich, Murphy did that one.
Chourio is still very inexpensive. It will be close as to where arbitration raises would have got
him, maybe cheaper. Top 5 CF production would cost a bit.

[renostl]

Brewers are smart trade him in the offseason instead of being dumb and waiting until the trade deadline when his value is down

That’s not always the case.

Also, I’m guessing since the brewers are good, if they open the season w FP, it means they’re keeping him.

There has to be a market for the position. Time of year doesn't matter.

And production and need improves the market, money is negotiable

[ramfandan]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only be 22 years old ) .

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

I'm not sure Matt Arnold would have sign Yelich, Murphy did that one.
Chourio is still very inexpensive. It will be close as to where arbitration raises would have got
him, maybe cheaper. Top 5 CF production would cost a bit.

Murphy didn’t sign Yelich. Yelich extension was done with previous POBO to Matt Arnold named David Stearns . Stearns left Milw. To accept $10M per year POBO deal with Mets.

Murphy was Counsel’s bench coach for 6 years but never part of Brewers front office .

[Stlcardsblues]

Brewers are smart trade him in the offseason instead of being dumb and waiting until the trade deadline when his value is down

That’s not always the case.

Also, I’m guessing since the brewers are good, if they open the season w FP, it means they’re keeping him.

Well it was certainly dumb to keep helsley and fedde. Unless a player has a down year the year before it’s dumb to keep them until the deadline their value goes down due to not as much team control and the risk of them having a down year.

We have no idea of the offers.

Of course Fedde is hindsight. Who’d da thought he would fall off a cliff.

Some of us were not stunned he fell off a cliff. I warned of it before the trade. I mentioned that he was going to turn into Mikolas 2.0. He went to Asia as he was struggling. The league was going to catch up to the adjustments he made in Asia.

[CorneliusWolfe]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only b

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

I'm not sure Matt Arnold would have sign Yelich, Murphy did that one.
Chourio is still very inexpensive. It will be close as to where arbitration raises would have got
him, maybe cheaper. Top 5 CF production would cost a bit.

I have to credit them for that deal. If Chourio had busted out, the GM would’ve looked like an idiot and committed a fireable offense. Instead he got a stud player for cheap with the promise of security that a minor leaguer who’s never played a big league game just couldn’t resist.

I wonder what the player’s union thinks about that deal? If he continues to develop and get even better, he would’ve made quadruple the $$ in free agency. He might’ve even exceeded the value of the deal after three years of arbitration anyway.

[ramfandan]

Cheap (donkey) ownership. They pack the house and get playoff revenue every year. They obviously draft and develop well but it’s never good enough to close the deal. No reason they can’t at least extend the occasional veteran who’s performed well for them during a good window of opportunity to contend.

Not saying it should be FP, because he always has health issues…but they don’t keep anyone, regardless of performance and health.

The BDW money-saver club wants our team to be just like them too. Which is basically the Mozeliak model, just executed better. They prove, year after year, you need more than just a good young talent base for a championship team. I’m glad they got bounced even if it was by the Dodgers.

Actually , the Brewers have extended not ONE but TWO top notch players .. . Maybe you forgot but back in 2020, the Brewers gave a NINE year extention to OF to Christian Yelich worth $215 M .. Then they most recently signed rookie Jackson Chourio (who was entering his rookie year ) to a EIGHT year $82 M deal and he had not played a game yet for the Brewers. The 8 year deal runs thru 2031 but also has a 2 year team option that could make him a Brewer for 10 years thru 2033. One of the boldest long term deals in MLB history to a kid that had yet to play a game. He has already post back to back 20 hR seasons with 20+ steals as well. Chourio is just 21 years old and next March 11th ( prior to his 3rd MLB year will only b

You’re right, I forgot about Yelich. Extremely rare case for them. Choirio was definitely a bold move.

I wonder how it would be received if the Cards did the same with Wetherholt? I’d bet that at least 2-3 out of 5 of those type of deals turn out bad for the team as so many top prospects wash out. Thankfully we didn’t do that with Dylan Carlson or Jordan Walker.

Either way, I’m not too proud to admit you got me on a couple recent and good examples so I’ll concede that maybe they are changing their cheap ways to some degree.

I'm not sure Matt Arnold would have sign Yelich, Murphy did that one.
Chourio is still very inexpensive. It will be close as to where arbitration raises would have got
him, maybe cheaper. Top 5 CF production would cost a bit.

I have to credit them for that deal. If Chourio had busted out, the GM would’ve looked like an idiot and committed a fireable offense. Instead he got a stud player for cheap with the promise of security that a minor leaguer who’s never played a big league game just couldn’t resist.

I wonder what the player’s union thinks about that deal? If he continues to develop and get even better, he would’ve made quadruple the $$ in free agency. He might’ve even exceeded the value of the deal after three years of arbitration anyway.

Since you brought up Chourio’s deal and how union May feel about it, thought you should know a couple other tidbits if the deal.
While thr main deal is 8 years for $80+ M , the two team option years (years 9 & 10 ) should Brewerd exercise them would pay hour II $25M each year . In addition, there are escalators in the entire deal that can give the kid extra $$$ should he get specific MVP voting stats ( have not seen exactly the language)
The cool thing for chourio is that he can hit free agency after 2032 when he is barely 30 years old.
Knowing Brewers at age 29 they can trade him in big deal with s year left . For they know they won’t be able to afford to pay him .
They work the system well.