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sdaltons wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:25 am Did the rule exist when he was on the Angels?

Yep.
Specifically designed to keep one player in the game as much as possible.
Thereby giving one team an advantage.
Currently, that the is the Dodgers.

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 12:26 pm

sdaltons wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:25 am Did the rule exist when he was on the Angels?

Yep.
Specifically designed to keep one player in the game as much as possible.
Thereby giving one team an advantage.
Currently, that the is the Dodgers.

I’m dumb what rule? Taken out after 6 but hit in 7th as DH?

dugoutrex wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:18 am

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:05 am

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 09:51 am Because they have the best player in baseball.

So the best player in baseball is therefore entitled to a rule which benefits him specifically?
Hmmm....maybe the NBA should allow Jokic 10 personal fouls to ensure he stays in the game.
The reasoning would be exactly the same as the Ohtani Rule.
Weird how MLB's best player needs the added protection of a special rule.....

derp

Hmmm...not quite a cogent thought on your part.
Perhaps more time should be granted?
Let's try that.
The rule was specifically created to accomplish one thing: keep MLB's best all-around player (and #1 marketing asset) in games as much as possible.
How would that be any different from the NBA creating a special rule for Jokic to remain is a game after fouling out?
Ohtani is an elite 2-way players and a marketing cash cow.
Jokic is an elite 3-way player and a marketing cash cow.
The NBA creating a rule designed solely to keep Jokic on the court would be in no way different from what MLB has done for Ohtani.

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 12:57 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:18 am

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:05 am

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 09:51 am Because they have the best player in baseball.

So the best player in baseball is therefore entitled to a rule which benefits him specifically?
Hmmm....maybe the NBA should allow Jokic 10 personal fouls to ensure he stays in the game.
The reasoning would be exactly the same as the Ohtani Rule.
Weird how MLB's best player needs the added protection of a special rule.....

derp

Hmmm...not quite a cogent thought on your part.
Perhaps more time should be granted?
Let's try that.
The rule was specifically created to accomplish one thing: keep MLB's best all-around player (and #1 marketing asset) in games as much as possible.
How would that be any different from the NBA creating a special rule for Jokic to remain is a game after fouling out?
Ohtani is an elite 2-way players and a marketing cash cow.
Jokic is an elite 3-way player and a marketing cash cow.
The NBA creating a rule designed solely to keep Jokic on the court would be in no way different from what MLB has done for Ohtani.

girl - sometimes you just deserve the simple 'derp'

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 11:34 am

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 09:51 am Because they have the best player in baseball.

Oh, f off. The Dodgers have the most talent in baseball and are the best team in the NL, if not the majors. Sometimes the best team in baseball doesn't finish with the best record. There are a myriad of reasons for this. If you don't know what those are I'll be happy to tell you, but I assume any baseball fan who's been around for a few year already know. Remember 2011? Some baseball fans still consider that a bit of a fluke. The Cards caught fire at the right time and stole a championship, the story sometimes goes. No, the Cardinals were the best team in baseball. They underperformed for large stretches the first four months of the season. Then in August they came together and started playing up to their talent level. After that, no one could stop the Cardinals from winning the pennant but themselves.

Not true, Brum. If Cruz had learned how to catch as a child, he could have stopped the Cards.

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Back in my day ballplayers didn’t receive money for the services they provided

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Had Newt Bar delivered us Ohtani he would have been thoroughly investigated for that gambling.

MrPostman01 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:47 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Had Newt Bar delivered us Ohtani he would have been thoroughly investigated for that gambling.

Indeed.
Ohtani might be wearing pinstripes right now if he wasn't a Dodger.

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:56 pm

MrPostman01 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:47 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Had Newt Bar delivered us Ohtani he would have been thoroughly investigated for that gambling.

Indeed.
Ohtani might be wearing pinstripes right now if he wasn't a Dodger.

Again you just proved you are uninformed, not informed and out of touch. You need to observer, learn and make better decisions before you post.

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 13:16 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 11:34 am

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 09:51 am Because they have the best player in baseball.

Oh, f off. The Dodgers have the most talent in baseball and are the best team in the NL, if not the majors. Sometimes the best team in baseball doesn't finish with the best record. There are a myriad of reasons for this. If you don't know what those are I'll be happy to tell you, but I assume any baseball fan who's been around for a few year already know. Remember 2011? Some baseball fans still consider that a bit of a fluke. The Cards caught fire at the right time and stole a championship, the story sometimes goes. No, the Cardinals were the best team in baseball. They underperformed for large stretches the first four months of the season. Then in August they came together and started playing up to their talent level. After that, no one could stop the Cardinals from winning the pennant but themselves.

Not true, Brum. If Cruz had learned how to catch as a child, he could have stopped the Cards.

The Cardinals had already won the pennant.

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 17:07 pm

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:56 pm

MrPostman01 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:47 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Had Newt Bar delivered us Ohtani he would have been thoroughly investigated for that gambling.

Indeed.
Ohtani might be wearing pinstripes right now if he wasn't a Dodger.

Again you just proved you are uninformed, not informed and out of touch. You need to observer, learn and make better decisions before you post.

So if Ohtani was not a Dodger right now, it isn't possible that he would instead be a Yankee?

MrPostman01 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 16:47 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 10:03 am Not given. Bought and paid for.

Had Newt Bar delivered us Ohtani he would have been thoroughly investigated for that gambling.

The bookie who took Ohtani's money via the interpreter (it is rather conveniently - and certainly fortuitously - claimed that 16M dollars changed hands without Ohtani or others noticing that 8 years of salary under his current contract was missing) stated in an interview that of the hundreds of people who participated in his illegal gambling ring, he estimated roughly 10 were MLB players.
Weird how there does not appear to have been any investigation of that.....I wonder who they were???
Maybe he was telling the truth, maybe not.
We will never know.
But hats off to Ohtani for not noticing that 8 years of his salary was missing.
Most folks would be aware of that, but it was actually quite prudent of him to not pay attention.
Allowed him to concentrate only on playing baseball.
Peculiar that his agent, accountant, financial advisor, and tax preparer all somehow avoided knowledge of the 16m missing dollars as well.
Not exactly high quality service Ohtani was receiving.
I suppose they are all much more careful now.
Maybe they all forgot how to count money.
After all, Sammy Sosa forgot how to speak English....
None the less, I am glad he was cleared.
That is good for business...ummm...good for baseball.

The NBA tweaks rules all the time both written and unwritten. Just watch a game from the 90’s vs a modern game.

The NFL does the same thing.

MLB didn’t have any legit two way players before. When one appeared they had to figure out how to handle it and they did. Nothing wrong with that.

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 18:14 pm The NBA tweaks rules all the time both written and unwritten. Just watch a game from the 90’s vs a modern game.

The NFL does the same thing.

MLB didn’t have any legit two way players before. When one appeared they had to figure out how to handle it and they did. Nothing wrong with that.

Ruth was the greatest 2 way player in history.
Better pitcher and better hitter than Ohtani.
MLB did not change the rules with the specific intent of giving just him an advantage.
But they certainly did for Ohtani.
By the way, EVERY team has multiple two-way and three-way players.
Ohtani is the ONLY one to have a rule created for his own personal benefit.

Melville wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 18:20 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 18:14 pm The NBA tweaks rules all the time both written and unwritten. Just watch a game from the 90’s vs a modern game.

The NFL does the same thing.

MLB didn’t have any legit two way players before. When one appeared they had to figure out how to handle it and they did. Nothing wrong with that.

Ruth was the greatest 2 way player in history.
Better pitcher and better hitter than Ohtani.
MLB did not change the rules with the specific intent of giving just him an advantage.
But they certainly did for Ohtani.
By the way, EVERY team has multiple two-way and three-way players.
Ohtani is the ONLY one to have a rule created for his own personal benefit.

not true - Sonny Gray gets to stay in too, if he is ever a DH - now make my sandwich girl

The player/DH rule existed in college and HS before MLB adopted it. Now, did they implement it because of Ohtani? Of course.

Baseball already has a salary cap, they just call it the CBT. Teams in all sports can exceed their caps, and there are many loopholes in all of them, but the penalties for doing so can be pretty severe. Raise the penalty, institute an international draft (something they kicked the can down the road last time) and increase revenue sharing (which the union also opposes) and avert a lockout.