Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Ppl are like “Pujols hit a hr. Big deal. It’s Albert.”
The team was down by two with two outs no runners on. Against Lidge.
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Ppl are like “Pujols hit a hr. Big deal. It’s Albert.”
The team was down by two with two outs no runners on. Against Lidge.
And they still lost the series. They won the series Adam’(poop) the home run in
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Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
yup - that's why the Adams homer was bigger/more important
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
yup - that's why the Adams homer was bigger/more important
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Ppl are like “Pujols hit a hr. Big deal. It’s Albert.”
The team was down by two with two outs no runners on. Against Lidge.
And they still lost the series. They won the series Adam’(poop) the home run in
Here’s one never debated here. The bigger or better home run. Some could say Lidge was never the “sane@.” What about Kershaw?
This isn’t a franchise level question- simply between these two at bats.
Thoughts.
I just think the "never the same" argument around Lidge gets more attention than it deserves. First, he's a reliever, who are notorious for being inconsistent from season to season, as he was before the Pujols HR as well.
Second, he had a perfect closing season his first year in Philly and if I'm not mistaken, he was like 45 for 45 save opps or something. I think he was even top 3 MVP voting that season, which doesn't happen often for a closer.
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Ppl are like “Pujols hit a hr. Big deal. It’s Albert.”
The team was down by two with two outs no runners on. Against Lidge.
And they still lost the series. They won the series Adam’(poop) the home run in
Of a non elimination game…
So what every post season game is crucial. If the cardinals had beat the astros and advanced in the series then yes pujols would be bigger but it didn’t it just postponed their elimination. Adams home run helped the cardinals eliminate the dodgers and advance in the post season there’s no comparison. Without Adam’s home run the cardinals might not win the series could have changed the series outcome we know Albert’s home run didn’t change the series outcome
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Ppl are like “Pujols hit a hr. Big deal. It’s Albert.”
The team was down by two with two outs no runners on. Against Lidge.
And they still lost the series. They won the series Adam’(poop) the home run in
Of a non elimination game…
So what every post season game is crucial. If the cardinals had beat the astros and advanced in the series then yes pujols would be bigger but it didn’t it just postponed their elimination. Adams home run helped the cardinals eliminate the dodgers and advance in the post season there’s no comparison. Without Adam’s home run the cardinals might not win the series could have changed the series outcome we know Albert’s home run didn’t change the series outcome
Wow tough one.
If forced to pick I’d probably pick Pujols because they were one out from elimination.
Oh....and not to detract from this great thread....
but I’d pick Jack Clark 1985 NLCS Game 6 over both of them.
Great thread!
dugoutrex wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 10:54 am
Adams and it ain't even close! One of the home runs resulted in a WS and the other just delayed the inevitable by 2 days!
hmoss859 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 12:22 pm
Pujols home run / hostile environment and facing elimination
Adam’s home run doesn’t compare
You’re right it doesn’t compare because pujols homerun didn’t change the series outcome Adam’s home run helped the cardinals go on to eliminate the dodgers
Lidge had this aura of invincibility in the 9th. A reputation that he definitely earned. And he wasn't right for all of the season after, and a good deal of the season after that before he got right again. Even in that era where guys weren't posting gaudy K/9 totals, even relief pitchers, look at what Lidge had put up to that point.
I thought for sure we'd come back and paste Houston after that. And if I remember right, we couldn't have been more flat that next game.
Oswalt struck out pujols in the first …..and itwas over
I've decided not to talk about past players, or Cardinal events until I see some present commitment and competence- unless it relates in some way to the present. If they have a good off-season I would be willing to relax that stance.
