Could the Cardinals get enough for Nootbaar, and Gorman or Walker in order to keep Donovan?

[KeeptheRamsinSTL]

What do you expect to get for Gorman or Walker? Walker is terrible. Gorman has his moments but he strikes out all of the time and has a bad back.

Nootbarr and Donovan are closer to free agency and are older. I think there is a good chance that the Cardinals trade both players. By the time the Cardinals might get better both of these guys will probably leave the team anyway in free agency.

I really like Donovan as a player. He reminds me of Pete Rose without the off the field problems but he will be 29 next season. It is time to let Bloom trade away the guys from Mo's time in St. Louis and bring in the players that he sees as the future.

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Burleson is a singles hitter with runners on base and RISP....only 7 XBH with RISP last year ....33 Hits and only 7 of them XBH. That can't be allowed in the 3rd Hole....bat him 6th or 7th. Maybe 9th if he can be taught to run faster in the offseason?...After all he's coming into a Made up Prime next year, so he's getting better...so we're told

This team can't afford anymore station to station running....Singles hitters in the 3rd hole are holding us back.

1. Wetherholt/Donovan
2. Herrera
3. Donovan/Wetherholt
4. Contreras
5. FA power bat, something better than 7 XBH with RISP
6. Winn
7. Burleson
8. Pick a strike out catcher
9. VS2

True, but all this talk about Oli and his iPAD runs counter to what he actually does. He has this information. Yet he bats Burly 3rd. And will still bat Burly 3rd next year if allowed to remain manager.

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What do you expect to get for Gorman or Walker? Walker is terrible. Gorman has his moments but he strikes out all of the time and has a bad back.

Nootbarr and Donovan are closer to free agency and are older. I think there is a good chance that the Cardinals trade both players. By the time the Cardinals might get better both of these guys will probably leave the team anyway in free agency.

I really like Donovan as a player. He reminds me of Pete Rose without the off the field problems but he will be 29 next season. It is time to let Bloom trade away the guys from Mo's time in St. Louis and bring in the players that he sees as the future.

Donovan reminds you of Pete Rose? Ok. That never occurred to me. Let me know when Donovan gets close to 2,000 or 3,000 or 4,000 hits, though. I don't want to miss those moments!

[Mort Gage]

The idea of Wetherholt and Donovan at 1/2 in the batting order is intriguing. Some might not agree, but I'll add Wetherholt, Donovan and Burleson 1/2/3. Especially, vs RHP.

You've already done this thread topic. Multiple times.

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viewtopic.php?t=1516252
viewtopic.php?t=1516243
viewtopic.php?t=1516206
viewtopic.php?t=1515579
viewtopic.php?t=1514475

I guess he needed extra special attention today.... 4 or 5 new threads? Most of them repeats from other threads he's started.

Spammer-in-chief

Isn't it about time for you to "get lost" from the supervisory role you seem to feel you are entitled to on CT. Rest up for your reporting duties. The forum doesn't need your negativity. There are plenty of respectful posters interested in discussing baseball. Not causing trouble like you constantly try to do. By the way, your "Winn batting 6, Burleson at 7 vs RHP may be the stupidest suggestion I've ever witnessed on Cards Talk".

I know...but Winn's 11 XBH with RISP vs. Burley's 7 XBH with RISP in fewer AB's, too.... Now, about the intelligence claim you just made :

Winn's .253 BA, 9 HRs, 51 RBIs, .673 OPS. Compared to Burleson's numbers. No thanks. You are losing your asinine brain fart spar. Fortunately, your reporting is much better than your analytical ability and plain common sense.

Is there anyone you haven't alienated who could check in on you? Your behavior is disturbing.

[KeeptheRamsinSTL]

What do you expect to get for Gorman or Walker? Walker is terrible. Gorman has his moments but he strikes out all of the time and has a bad back.

Nootbarr and Donovan are closer to free agency and are older. I think there is a good chance that the Cardinals trade both players. By the time the Cardinals might get better both of these guys will probably leave the team anyway in free agency.

I really like Donovan as a player. He reminds me of Pete Rose without the off the field problems but he will be 29 next season. It is time to let Bloom trade away the guys from Mo's time in St. Louis and bring in the players that he sees as the future.

Donovan reminds you of Pete Rose? Ok. That never occurred to me. Let me know when Donovan gets close to 2,000 or 3,000 or 4,000 hits, though. I don't want to miss those moments!

HE isn't going to get to 4,256. I know that.

He still reminds me of Rose.

[Shady]

What do you expect to get for Gorman or Walker? Walker is terrible. Gorman has his moments but he strikes out all of the time and has a bad back.

Nootbarr and Donovan are closer to free agency and are older. I think there is a good chance that the Cardinals trade both players. By the time the Cardinals might get better both of these guys will probably leave the team anyway in free agency.

I really like Donovan as a player. He reminds me of Pete Rose without the off the field problems but he will be 29 next season. It is time to let Bloom trade away the guys from Mo's time in St. Louis and bring in the players that he sees as the future.

Donovan reminds you of Pete Rose? Ok. That never occurred to me. Let me know when Donovan gets close to 2,000 or 3,000 or 4,000 hits, though. I don't want to miss those moments!

HE isn't going to get to 4,256. I know that.

He still reminds me of Rose.

Donovan does kind of remind me, too, of Rose hitting from the left side. And the way he plays the game. Obviously, Donny will never accomplish what Rose did in a career.

[hullie]

If Burleson is our #3 hitter next year it’s gonna be another long year.

[woofy25]

Burleson is a singles hitter with runners on base and RISP....only 7 XBH with RISP last year ....33 Hits and only 7 of them XBH. That can't be allowed in the 3rd Hole....bat him 6th or 7th. Maybe 9th if he can be taught to run faster in the offseason?...After all he's coming into a Made up Prime next year, so he's getting better...so we're told

This team can't afford anymore station to station running....Singles hitters in the 3rd hole are holding us back.

1. Wetherholt/Donovan
2. Herrera
3. Donovan/Wetherholt
4. Contreras
5. FA power bat, something better than 7 XBH with RISP
6. Winn
7. Burleson
8. Pick a strike out catcher
9. VS2

As would Winn hitting 6th. Gross

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If Burleson is our #3 hitter next year it’s gonna be another long year.

He will be if he is still here and Oli is still here.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

If Burleson is our #3 hitter next year it’s gonna be another long year.

It would be another disaster.

[Shady]

This team has much worse issues than Burleson batting #3. Wake the (bleep) up Burleson bashers.

[Mort Gage]

This team has much worse issues than Burleson batting #3. Wake the (bleep) up Burleson bashers.

Is there anyone you haven't alienated who could check in on you? Your behavior is disturbing.

[JuanAgosto]

No. Nootbaar would bring back a mid prospect or a relief pitcher. Gorman and Walker bring nothing more than a mediocre low minor league maybe.

Bloom either fills the pitching needs through short-term prove it deals or one year low end deals like Gibson and Lynn.

That is the only way you keep Donovan. My guess is Bloom shops him in hopes of landing a #2 or #3 starting pitcher.

[earp]

send lottery ticket for STL to pay half the contract

[2ninr]

The idea of Wetherholt and Donovan at 1/2 in the batting order is intriguing. Some might not agree, but I'll add Wetherholt, Donovan and Burleson 1/2/3. Especially, vs RHP.

You've already done this thread topic. Multiple times.

viewtopic.php?t=1516419
viewtopic.php?t=1516252
viewtopic.php?t=1516243
viewtopic.php?t=1516206
viewtopic.php?t=1515579
viewtopic.php?t=1514475

I guess he needed extra special attention today.... 4 or 5 new threads? Most of them repeats from other threads he's started.

Spammer-in-chief

Isn't it about time for you to "get lost" from the supervisory role you seem to feel you are entitled to on CT. Rest up for your reporting duties. The forum doesn't need your negativity. There are plenty of respectful posters interested in discussing baseball. Not causing trouble like you constantly try to do. By the way, your "Winn batting 6, Burleson at 7 vs RHP may be the stupidest suggestion I've ever witnessed on Cards Talk".

Pro tip- You don't need quotation marks around things you said.