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Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 08:00 am
by swatski
Expecting 20 HRs is a lot when half the games are at Busch. Guys will have to be good around him for him to get pitches to hit.
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 08:42 am
by Talkin' Baseball
swatski wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 08:00 am
Expecting 20 HRs is a lot when half the games are at Busch. Guys will have to be good around him for him to get pitches to hit.
Also, there is not a single guy in the whole Cardinals system that hit over 20 HR's this year- JJ included. It seems unlikely that he would do that next year.
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 08:53 am
by rockondlouie
Shady wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 15:11 pm
.265 BA, 12 HRs, 55 RBIs, 25 Doubles, .330 OBP, 20 SBs, .330 OBP, .700 OPS.
Too low, especially if he's the OD 2nd baseman as expected (and he better be).
I'll go:
.287/.355/.485/.840
15 HR
65 RBI (dependent on where he hits, I'd have him in the #2 hole but he could hit lead-off)
27 SB's
89 Runs
Top 3 in ROY voting and could win it.
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 09:04 am
by ramfandan
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 08:53 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 15:11 pm
.265 BA, 12 HRs, 55 RBIs, 25 Doubles, .330 OBP, 20 SBs, .330 OBP, .700 OPS.
Too low, especially if he's the OD 2nd baseman as expected (and he better be).
I'll go:
.287/.355/.485/.840
15 HR
65 RBI (dependent on where he hits, I'd have him in the #2 hole but he could hit lead-off)
27 SB's
89 Runs
Top 3 in ROY voting and could win it.
I think lead-off is good spot for JJ. Regarding his RBI total, I feel who the Cardinals have hitting 8th and 9th will be important. If those spots hit a feeble .205 to .215 then JJ’s RBI numbers are limited. If Bloom gets better hitting in those spots, JJ RBI will be quite good.
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 09:09 am
by rockondlouie
ramfandan wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:04 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 08:53 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 15:11 pm
.265 BA, 12 HRs, 55 RBIs, 25 Doubles, .330 OBP, 20 SBs, .330 OBP, .700 OPS.
Too low, especially if he's the OD 2nd baseman as expected (and he better be).
I'll go:
.287/.355/.485/.840
15 HR
65 RBI (dependent on where he hits, I'd have him in the #2 hole but he could hit lead-off)
27 SB's
89 Runs
Top 3 in ROY voting and could win it.
I think lead-off is good spot for JJ. Regarding his RBI total, I feel who the Cardinals have hitting 8th and 9th will be important. If those spots hit a feeble .205 to .215 then JJ’s RBI numbers are limited. If Bloom gets better hitting in those spots, JJ RBI will be quite good.
I prefer him in the #2 hole RFD.
He's got some pop + speed and is a great fit (IMO) hitting 2nd where he can do some damage.
If he's the hitter most scouts think he will be in MLB and as he matures as a major league hitter and gets stronger, he could slide down and be a great #3 hitter!
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 09:45 am
by Absolut
He will have one ops point for every OP shady starts about him. Thus a runaway rookie of the year.
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 09:57 am
by ramfandan
Absolut wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:45 am
He will have one ops point for every OP shady starts about him. Thus a runaway rookie of the year.
So 900 ops or higher..
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 10:17 am
by ecleme22
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:09 am
ramfandan wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:04 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 08:53 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 15:11 pm
.265 BA, 12 HRs, 55 RBIs, 25 Doubles, .330 OBP, 20 SBs, .330 OBP, .700 OPS.
Too low, especially if he's the OD 2nd baseman as expected (and he better be).
I'll go:
.287/.355/.485/.840
15 HR
65 RBI (dependent on where he hits, I'd have him in the #2 hole but he could hit lead-off)
27 SB's
89 Runs
Top 3 in ROY voting and could win it.
I think lead-off is good spot for JJ. Regarding his RBI total, I feel who the Cardinals have hitting 8th and 9th will be important. If those spots hit a feeble .205 to .215 then JJ’s RBI numbers are limited. If Bloom gets better hitting in those spots, JJ RBI will be quite good.
I prefer him in the #2 hole RFD.
He's got some pop + speed and is a great fit (IMO) hitting 2nd where he can do some damage.
If he's the hitter most scouts think he will be in MLB and as he matures as a major league hitter and gets stronger, he could slide down and be a great #3 hitter!
It's like 7 months until Opening Day and you have a POV on where a rookie should be in the batting order?
Okay...
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 10:28 am
by rockondlouie
Absolut wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:45 am
He will have one ops point for every OP shady starts about him. Thus a runaway rookie of the year.
MVP too!
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 10:33 am
by Adam2
Shady wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 17:56 pm
That's Rookie of the Year numbers.
You shouldn't be surprised. You and only you saw this prospect coming
Re: Realistic expectations for Wetherholt next season as a rookie
Posted: 06 Oct 2025 10:45 am
by Shady
My view of "Realistic" for Wetherholt's production as a rookie seemed quite low compared to some other views of "Realistic". I'd gladly be wrong on some of these lofty predictions.