Carbonneau Already Tearing It Up

[MikoTython]

Could be the steal of the first round. The book on him was, a man among boys, so shame on the folks that looked past, and bully for the club for not making that mistake.

[Harry S Deals]

This is why they should've traded Kyrou: Snuggeruud & Carbonneau are the future RWs

Buchnevich isn't needed either (Neighbours can play LW with Thomas)

Too bad the both have NTCs.

I agree, they are the main future RWs but trading a proven 40 goal scorer and a proven almost PPG player and replacing them with basically unproven talent at this point is pure folly.

Correct, I just fear their contracts may hamper the ability to extend a Holloway, Snuggeruud, Neighbours, Carbonneau, Broberg, Binnington, Hofer to long term contracts. Maybe Kyrou & Buchnevich will be looking for a change of scenery in 3 years.

Blues have plenty of cap space they aren't carrying any bad contracts. Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

[zamadoo]

This is why they should've traded Kyrou: Snuggeruud & Carbonneau are the future RWs

Buchnevich isn't needed either (Neighbours can play LW with Thomas)

Too bad the both have NTCs.

I agree, they are the main future RWs but trading a proven 40 goal scorer and a proven almost PPG player and replacing them with basically unproven talent at this point is pure folly.

Correct, I just fear their contracts may hamper the ability to extend a Holloway, Snuggeruud, Neighbours, Carbonneau, Broberg, Binnington, Hofer to long term contracts. Maybe Kyrou & Buchnevich will be looking for a change of scenery in 3 years.

Blues have plenty of cap space they aren't carrying any bad contracts. Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

Cap is going up so much in the next couple of seasons that there shouldn't be any worry. We don't have anyone who will get $17M+, and most of these guys will settle for half that just like Kyrou and Thomas. Over the next two seasons, we can give $8x8 contracts to all of the RFA skaters mentioned and still be in good position.

[Old_Goat]

This is why they should've traded Kyrou: Snuggeruud & Carbonneau are the future RWs

Buchnevich isn't needed either (Neighbours can play LW with Thomas)

Too bad the both have NTCs.

I agree, they are the main future RWs but trading a proven 40 goal scorer and a proven almost PPG player and replacing them with basically unproven talent at this point is pure folly.

Correct, I just fear their contracts may hamper the ability to extend a Holloway, Snuggeruud, Neighbours, Carbonneau, Broberg, Binnington, Hofer to long term contracts. Maybe Kyrou & Buchnevich will be looking for a change of scenery in 3 years.

Blues have plenty of cap space they aren't carrying any bad contracts. Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

Cap is going up so much in the next couple of seasons that there shouldn't be any worry. We don't have anyone who will get $17M+, and most of these guys will settle for half that just like Kyrou and Thomas. Over the next two seasons, we can give $8x8 contracts to all of the RFA skaters mentioned and still be in good position.

And wouldn't it be nice to have most of those names you just mentioned locked-up on reasonable contracts, such that the likes of a Toropchenko, Sundqvist, Bjugstad, Walker, Joseph, Texier were unaffordable?...in addition to Schenn, Faulk no longer under big contracts. Think about the great Canadiens teams of the 1970s and the Red Wings 20-30 years ago...How nice to potentially have excellentl talent on practically all 4 lines. Sure you wouldn't be able to pay a McDavid, Kaprizov type of $ (and you may not need or want to), but you could pay a lot of your team very well and for quite awhile. The prospects for playing on a well-managed, well-balanced, deeply talented team that is a serious contender every year is very appealing. You may lose a couple to greed, or prospects to frustration, or even unfortunate injury. But if managed properly, you can meter in 1-2 replacements each year and keep a well-oiled machine. Oh, and having & keeping an excellent Coach around for a long time is key...none of this "his message is not working anymore" [nonsense]. The stability, continuity, tradition is very important. You won't win the Cup every year, but it is still a highly successful team.
Is it a challenge? -- Yes. Can it be done? -- Yes. Done perfectly? -- No.
Finally, no offense to the likes of a Toropchenko, Sundqvist, Walker, Joseph, etc. I like what they bring, I get their role. But imagine if the talent levels were even better, all the way down the line. I guess this is another way of saying that the Top 5 Pick fixation is over-emphasized. The Spotlight on one player's Jersey sales is overemphasized. The worry about keeping a petulant superstar in a high-rise luxury penthouse is overemphasized.

[DawgDad]

Against the Jets Faksa, Walker, and Toropchenko were plus 7, 5, and 7.

[roadkillIL]

There goes Dawg again on some tangent, responding with facts.

[DawgDad]

Back to the OP, has Carbonneau scored 100 goals yet? I looked this up the other day just to refresh my mind, since he seems to have established an air of a non-zero probability. Lemieux, LaFleur, and [long forgotten?] Gary MacGregor.

[seattleblue]

Carbonneau will put up gaudy numbers this year on a team that will roll opponents frequently. He won't get near 100 though.

I am trying to understand why onhockey has literally every level of every European and Asian and Oceanic country for hockey including livestreams of minor league women's hockey and British hockey, and it also has all the N/A leagues including the OHL but does not have WHL or QMJHL games apparently any more. like seriously wtf. I tried watching his game on Friday and it was not there. He plays again in two hours from now. And every game in the world is available today but not the super obscure QMJHL ...

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

I hear Broberg could command up to 10 million and Holloway will get around 9 per season.

In the meantime until Carbonneau's future max deal; they'll have Neighbours, Binnington, Hofer & Snuggeruud's contracts to deal with. A good player or two are gonna have to go, at the expense of the Kyrou & Buchnevich deals.

[John Cocktoastin]

Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

I hear Broberg could command up to 10 million and Holloway will get around 9 per season.

In the meantime until Carbonneau's future max deal; they'll have Neighbours, Binnington, Hofer & Snuggeruud's contracts to deal with. A good player or two are gonna have to go, at the expense of the Kyrou & Buchnevich deals.

I'd just wrap them up now. No use in tempting fate and seeing their numbers go bananas this season.

[somni]

Carbonneau will put up gaudy numbers this year on a team that will roll opponents frequently. He won't get near 100 though.

I am trying to understand why onhockey has literally every level of every European and Asian and Oceanic country for hockey including livestreams of minor league women's hockey and British hockey, and it also has all the N/A leagues including the OHL but does not have WHL or QMJHL games apparently any more. like seriously wtf. I tried watching his game on Friday and it was not there. He plays again in two hours from now. And every game in the world is available today but not the super obscure QMJHL ...

Victory+ shows some WHL games. It's free. They even have replays.

[TAFKAP]

Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

I hear Broberg could command up to 10 million and Holloway will get around 9 per season.

In the meantime until Carbonneau's future max deal; they'll have Neighbours, Binnington, Hofer & Snuggeruud's contracts to deal with. A good player or two are gonna have to go, at the expense of the Kyrou & Buchnevich deals.

I'd just wrap them up now. No use in tempting fate and seeing their numbers go bananas this season.

Snuggy just signed his deal. He's got 3 years on his ELC before we even start THINKING of paying him. He doesn't officially hit UFA until Thomas. Kyrou, and Buch's deals are done. Schenn's contract is up before his ELC even ends. You're not going to pay both Binnington AND Hofer. It'll be one or the other. If Binny signs a retirement deal here. Hofer will be dealt to make room for younger and cheaper. As long as the cap keeps increasing, It'll all work out in the end.

[John Cocktoastin]

As long as the cap keeps increasing, It'll all work out in the end.

And revenues keep rising.

[TAFKAP]

As long as the cap keeps increasing, It'll all work out in the end.

And revenues keep rising.

Touche'

[STL fan in MN]

Both Broberg and Holloway will get 8x8 ish we are aways out from worrying about paying Carbonneau

I hear Broberg could command up to 10 million and Holloway will get around 9 per season.

In the meantime until Carbonneau's future max deal; they'll have Neighbours, Binnington, Hofer & Snuggeruud's contracts to deal with. A good player or two are gonna have to go, at the expense of the Kyrou & Buchnevich deals.

I'd just wrap them up now. No use in tempting fate and seeing their numbers go bananas this season.

Snuggy just signed his deal. He's got 3 years on his ELC before we even start THINKING of paying him. He doesn't officially hit UFA until Thomas. Kyrou, and Buch's deals are done. Schenn's contract is up before his ELC even ends. You're not going to pay both Binnington AND Hofer. It'll be one or the other. If Binny signs a retirement deal here. Hofer will be dealt to make room for younger and cheaper. As long as the cap keeps increasing, It'll all work out in the end.

Snuggy only has 2 years left on his ELC as he burned the first year playing the last few games of last season. His contract ends before Schenn’s does. As well as Thomas, Kyrou and Buch.

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

Snuggy just signed his deal. He's got 3 years on his ELC before we even start THINKING of paying him. He doesn't officially hit UFA until Thomas. Kyrou, and Buch's deals are done. Schenn's contract is up before his ELC even ends. You're not going to pay both Binnington AND Hofer. It'll be one or the other. If Binny signs a retirement deal here. Hofer will be dealt to make room for younger and cheaper. As long as the cap keeps increasing, It'll all work out in the end.

Snuggy is a RFA after next season...he'll need a deal soon
Then Carbonneau after that

Holloway, Broberg, Neighbours, Maillioux, Binnington or Hofer all will be looking to cash in soon