Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

[ecleme22]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

[Rojo Johnson]

What the he!! is Tampa doing with 4 Assistant GM's? Idiotic

What the hell are the Cardinals doing with FOUR CATCHERS? Idiotic. That Moe, he’s a real pip, ain’t he?

[scoutyjones2]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

[imadangman]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

But Roman Anthony Roman Anthony Roman Anthony

We Cardinal fans deserve a Roman Anthony of our own

[Strummer Jones]

Want to measure Bloom's success in both TB & Boston a few years after he left, then look at the STOCKED farm systems he left both teams that set them up for success down the road after he left.

Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.

He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.

The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.

And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.

This across the board.

Each of those systems were fat with talent after he left.

And I'm not 100% sure of what Cerfolio's job is at present (is it assistant GM?) but he's been real high profile since coming here. I'd be surprised if he's not got the GM tag after the dust settles. I think he'd be good at it. Someone with some actual pedigree with drafting/developing/etc. I never got that feeling about Girsch.

[imadangman]

Want to measure Bloom's success in both TB & Boston a few years after he left, then look at the STOCKED farm systems he left both teams that set them up for success down the road after he left.

Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.

He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.

The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.

And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.

This across the board.

Each of those systems were fat with talent after he left.

And I'm not 100% sure of what Cerfolio's job is at present (is it assistant GM?) but he's been real high profile since coming here. I'd be surprised if he's not got the GM tag after the dust settles. I think he'd be good at it. Someone with some actual pedigree with drafting/developing/etc. I never got that feeling about Girsch.

Cerfolio sure seems to be an impactful guy.

[CorneliusWolfe]

Want to measure Bloom's success in both TB & Boston a few years after he left, then look at the STOCKED farm systems he left both teams that set them up for success down the road after he left.

Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.

He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.

The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.

And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.

My first thought was Cerfolio too, and maybe he’ll actually be empowered instead of a puppet. That would leave only a lateral move for Rodriguez.

[scoutyjones2]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

But Roman Anthony Roman Anthony Roman Anthony

We Cardinal fans deserve a Roman Anthony of our own

Herrera...

[imadangman]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

But Roman Anthony Roman Anthony Roman Anthony

We Cardinal fans deserve a Roman Anthony of our own

Herrera...

Oh I do love me some Herrera

[ecleme22]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

Boston farm system rankings:
2019: 30th
2020: 25th
2021: 24th
2022: 14th
2023: 16th
2024: 3rd
2025: 3rd

[scoutyjones2]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

Boston farm system rankings:
2019: 30th
2020: 25th
2021: 24th
2022: 14th
2023: 16th
2024: 3rd
2025: 3rd

What part of "are they really a contender?" passed over your head. One playoff appearance since 2021 when they were ranked 30th thru 24th...Cards last playoff appearance was 2022

So tell me how he worked some impressive magic that translated to playoff appearances/success?

[Unleaded]

Is Girsch still with the organization? If so what is his job now?

[Bomber1]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

Well the Sox are 15 over .500 with a strong chance to make the playoffs, and have the #3 rated farm system.
What more would you expect at this point?

[scoutyjones2]

Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.

Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.

As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.

If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.

2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planning

Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82

ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...

Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?

I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.

It's hard to debate stupid.

Yes, a person in charge of scouting/signing/drafting amateur talent today will only realize the fruits of their labor in their labor 2-5 years down the road.

So if you're in charge of that for 5 years, then leave job, all of your player personnel choices are still making their way through the system.

Okay, dim bulb?

Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...

How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?

Well the Sox are 15 over .500 with a strong chance to make the playoffs, and have the #3 rated farm system.
What more would you expect at this point?

make the playoffs? wake me when that happens. Basically show the same success as the Cards have...

Are they a contender? have they even won the AL East since 2018. Cards won NL Central in 2022.

[rockondlouie]

Want to measure Bloom's success in both TB & Boston a few years after he left, then look at the STOCKED farm systems he left both teams that set them up for success down the road after he left.

Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.

He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.

The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.

And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.

This across the board.

Each of those systems were fat with talent after he left.

And I'm not 100% sure of what Cerfolio's job is at present (is it assistant GM?) but he's been real high profile since coming here. I'd be surprised if he's not got the GM tag after the dust settles. I think he'd be good at it. Someone with some actual pedigree with drafting/developing/etc. I never got that feeling about Girsch.

And Bloom's the guy who wrote the book for the TB minor league player development system system and inherited a horrible minor league system in Boston (sound familiar?) that he fixed and has become one of the bests.

Yes, Cerfolio is the Asst. GM for player development and player performance working w/both players on the big squad and down below.

Here's a good article about him:

https://www.mlb.com/news/rob-cerfolio-m ... sistant-gm

[rockondlouie]

Just some facts:

Baseball America ranked Boston’s minor league system No. 30 (dead last) in 2019, before Bloom was hired.

BA ranked the Red Sox No. 5 in its 2023 midseason organizational rankings and wrote, “The Red Sox are stocked with up-the-middle talent, as all of their top 10 positional prospects play in the middle infield, center field or catcher.

This current cache of prospect depth is likely Chaim Bloom’s greatest achievement during his time in Boston.”


Twenty-one of the prospects on Baseball America’s Red Sox Top 30 list are players Bloom either drafted, signed or acquired via trade

Bloom’s prospects: Marcelo Mayer (1), Roman Anthony (2), Miguel Bleis (3), Kyle Teel (4), Nick Yorke (5), Shane Drohan (9), Nathan Hickey (10), Yoeilin Cespedes (12), Nazzan Zanetello (13), Chase Meidroth (14), Blaze Jordan (15), Enmanuel Valdez (17), Antonio Anderson (18), Mikey Romero (19), David Hamilton (22), Johanfran Garcia (23), Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz (24), Brooks Brannon (25), Wilyer Abreu (26), Yordanny Monegro (29), Hunter Dobbins (30).

All four of Boston’s Top 100 Baseball America prospects (Mayer, Anthony, Bleis and Teel) entered the organization during Bloom’s tenure. Seven of the top 10 prospects in the system are Bloom players.

Connor Wong, Josh Winckowski, Garrett Whitlock and Wilyer Abreu are all young players contributing on the big league roster who Bloom acquired via trades and the Rule 5 Draft.

Bloom also should get credit for putting the Red Sox in a position financially where they will be able to spend big in free agency in the coming years (if ownership decides to spend big).


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