My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
I think this is possible and would be a great outcome.

I don’t think it’s conservative though. Bloom & CO will need to push the right buttons but I like it!
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
There's a CBA looming
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Cusecards wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
:lol:

Same here, I only go negative when I see the team going in the wrong direction (re: Mo & his poor manager choices).

I'm really pumped for this Winter wanting to see Bloom enact his roster plans.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:28 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
There's a CBA looming
Right Scouty. Some seem to forget that fact.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:25 am
Cusecards wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
:lol:

Same here, I only go negative when I see the team going in the wrong direction (re: Mo & his poor manager choices).

I'm really pumped for this Winter wanting to see Bloom enact his roster plans.
Me too, Rock! Can't wait to see what decisions are made when Bloom steps out of the shadows :wink:
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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HighHeet wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:25 am
Cusecards wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
:lol:

Same here, I only go negative when I see the team going in the wrong direction (re: Mo & his poor manager choices).

I'm really pumped for this Winter wanting to see Bloom enact his roster plans.
Me too, Rock! Can't wait to see what decisions are made when Bloom steps out of the shadows :wink:
:D

It's going to be fun seeing what a fresh set of eye's (Bloom) has in store for the roster after Mo being in power for so long.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 25 Sep 2025 07:20 am
2ninr wrote: 25 Sep 2025 07:19 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 25 Sep 2025 07:03 am
2ninr wrote: 25 Sep 2025 06:58 am It's really hard to predict. Will any of Hence, Roby, Hjerpe, Rom be healthy and contribute by 27'? Will there be a 27'? Will Quinn Matthews start 26' in the majors? Will Westerholt be the player everyone expects? Bloom is known to slow play his prospects, especially pitching. Anything I or anyone else says is a wild guess. My wild guess is none of those injured pitchers ever start in the big leagues. Matthews is a back of the rotation starter. Mautz, Henderson, and Doyle will be here by 28. There won't be much winning until than. 27 doesn't happen. If Blooms pitching factory is churning out starters by than, we should be in good shape as an organization heading into the next decade.

Longest non appearance in a WS is 18 years as a franchise. We are are 12 now. To tie the record, it would have to be 2031. Do you think we threaten this number.
I would settle for a tie.
That’s not good. Six more years minimum.
Im not big on waiting either. But I want it fixed. These bandaid jobs clearly don't work.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:28 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
There's a CBA looming
Understood. I don't think a lockout will change this timeline appreciably. In fact, I expect the results of the CBA to be a help to the Cardinals.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:47 am
HighHeet wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:25 am
Cusecards wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
:lol:

Same here, I only go negative when I see the team going in the wrong direction (re: Mo & his poor manager choices).

I'm really pumped for this Winter wanting to see Bloom enact his roster plans.
Me too, Rock! Can't wait to see what decisions are made when Bloom steps out of the shadows :wink:
:D

It's going to be fun seeing what a fresh set of eye's (Bloom) has in store for the roster after Mo being in power for so long.
I am with you guys. I am an optimist. Bloom gets to do a reset. This will not happen overnight, but hopefully will start at the winter meetings. It will be interesting to see what ownership allows him to do on several fronts.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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bccardsfan wrote: 25 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:47 am
HighHeet wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:38 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 10:25 am
Cusecards wrote: 25 Sep 2025 09:21 am
rockondlouie wrote: 25 Sep 2025 08:42 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Agreed

2026:
C.Bloom weeds out the deadwood players via DFA and makes trades to remove NADO & possibly Gray (I think WillyC stays).

He also makes a BIG deal using Donny for a starting pitcher.

Team finishes above .500

2027:
As long as the CBA gets settled, BDWJr gives Bloom a decent payroll of at least $170M to add pieces not currently in the system and the team competes not only for a WC but the NLC.

Attendance bounces back above 2.7M.

2028:
Player development system starts to funnel quality players to the Cardinals and the team is set for a decent playoff run for many years!

Attendance once again tips 3+M!

(Now I need to take off my Redbird colored glasses :mrgreen: )
Hey Rock.....I’ve got a pair of those glasses too!! LOL
Seriously.....by nature I lean to being an optimist.
But I can certainly see why fans could lean toward pessimism.
I like your timeline.
Interesting offseason ahead for sure.
Fingers crossed that the turnaround with players like JJ, McGreevy, Doyle, the young Catchers, etc etc is in motion.
:lol:

Same here, I only go negative when I see the team going in the wrong direction (re: Mo & his poor manager choices).

I'm really pumped for this Winter wanting to see Bloom enact his roster plans.
Me too, Rock! Can't wait to see what decisions are made when Bloom steps out of the shadows :wink:
:D

It's going to be fun seeing what a fresh set of eye's (Bloom) has in store for the roster after Mo being in power for so long.
I am with you guys. I am an optimist. Bloom gets to do a reset. This will not happen overnight, but hopefully will start at the winter meetings. It will be interesting to see what ownership allows him to do on several fronts.
It will take time and I hope fans understand that.

Bloom's not a miracle worker and Mo has left him a MESS to clean up.

But given some time and payroll resources by BDWJr, I think he'll build us WS caliber team again.

(okay now my Redbird colored glasses are really getting foggy :mrgreen: )
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Man, I hope all of you with high hopes for Bloom, aren't devastated
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 25 Sep 2025 11:36 am Man, I hope all of you with high hopes for Bloom, aren't devastated
Yeah, everyone sounds like they are excited to see Bloom start to implement his plans- and they are- until they realize Bloom's plans are not the same as their plans. I expect him to be much, much better at talent evaluation, much, much better about choosing a direction and sticking to it, much, much better about communicating with the fans- but fans may be disappointed with the pace, or his aversion to risk. I'm just waiting for them to lose their minds when he acquires someone they have never heard of.
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Re: My Idea of a Multiple Year Re-build

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Sep 2025 21:29 pm 2026- Re-shape the roster
2027- Compete for wildcard
2028- Compete for Division title
2029- Compete for deep playoff run

This is conservative and I think the new front office can expedite these timelines.
Helluva plan.
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