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Horton is an idiot, yes

At Burleson's low salary, he continues to be a "bright spot". For a team that doesn't have a lot of "bright spots" in terms of salary/production.

Shady wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Wonder is Horton feels that, if the Cardinals actually shopped Burleson, they could get an up and coming #2 type starting pitcher with quite a few years of control for Burly. Who should be coming into his prime. With the need for offense, I don't feel the Cardinals would even consider it. Though they could sure use quality starting pitch help.

zero chance he brings a return of a #2 with control. actually a -17% chance

Shady wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Wonder is Horton feels that, if the Cardinals actually shopped Burleson, they could get an up and coming #2 type starting pitcher with quite a few years of control for Burly. Who should be coming into his prime. With the need for offense, I don't feel the Cardinals would even consider it. Though they could sure use quality starting pitch help.

Not a chance in h e l l they'd get more than a #3 starter for him straight up.

Couple Noot w/Burly and you MIGHT get a low level #2 starter.

And 100% the Cardinals would not only consider it but drool at some idiot GM giving them a #2 starter for him.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 08:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Wonder is Horton feels that, if the Cardinals actually shopped Burleson, they could get an up and coming #2 type starting pitcher with quite a few years of control for Burly. Who should be coming into his prime. With the need for offense, I don't feel the Cardinals would even consider it. Though they could sure use quality starting pitch help.

Not a chance in h e l l they'd get more than a #3 starter for him straight up.

Couple Noot w/Burly and you MIGHT get a low level #2 starter.

And 100% the Cardinals would not only consider it but drool at some idiot GM giving them a #2 starter for him.

Burly fever has clouded his fragile eggshell mind.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 08:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Wonder is Horton feels that, if the Cardinals actually shopped Burleson, they could get an up and coming #2 type starting pitcher with quite a few years of control for Burly. Who should be coming into his prime. With the need for offense, I don't feel the Cardinals would even consider it. Though they could sure use quality starting pitch help.

Not a chance in h e l l they'd get more than a #3 starter for him straight up.

Couple Noot w/Burly and you MIGHT get a low level #2 starter.

And 100% the Cardinals would not only consider it but drool at some idiot GM giving them a #2 starter for him.

If at first you don’t succeed in getting the desired answer to a stupid question, ask again. And again, and again, and again, and again. Someone might eventually agree? If not, you can always make a couple sock accounts and agree with yourself! Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 09:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 08:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑17 Sep 2025 19:21 pm Wonder is Horton feels that, if the Cardinals actually shopped Burleson, they could get an up and coming #2 type starting pitcher with quite a few years of control for Burly. Who should be coming into his prime. With the need for offense, I don't feel the Cardinals would even consider it. Though they could sure use quality starting pitch help.

Not a chance in h e l l they'd get more than a #3 starter for him straight up.

Couple Noot w/Burly and you MIGHT get a low level #2 starter.

And 100% the Cardinals would not only consider it but drool at some idiot GM giving them a #2 starter for him.

If at first you don’t succeed in getting the desired answer to a stupid question, ask again. And again, and again, and again, and again. Someone might eventually agree? If not, you can always make a couple sock accounts and agree with yourself! Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

He does love him some Bumbles.

Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average

Even though we live in a 3 true outcomes era, it's still shocking to see, per Red's link, there are only 2 guys in the NL above. 300.

This statement is about as disgusting as all those “big fly” calls

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average

Burleson is putting together another productive season. And he's trending upward going into next season. As opposed to last season.

Shady wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:00 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average

Burleson is putting together another productive season. And he's trending upward going into next season. As opposed to last season.

Nope, not trending "upward".

1st Half
.293 .340 .466 .805

2nd Half
.273 .335 .455 .790

But much better than 2025 fall off.

His conditioning is terrible, needs to drop 25 lbs.

Really anyone capable of critical thinking knows Horton was talking ba. Horton can be silly, but he was a major league player and knows more about baseball than a majority of the contributors on cards talk. I probably like Burleson better than most, but it's not because he fits the profile that teams look for in today's game. He doesn’t. His defense is problematic. But his bat to ball skills are good, and with a team short on power, and with no sign we will be signing any , guys like Burleson are what we have in the system coming up that may be able to help score runs. But we have to rid ourselves of the guys who can't provide power or obp.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:18 pm

Shady wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:00 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average

Burleson is putting together another productive season. And he's trending upward going into next season. As opposed to last season.

Nope, not trending "upward".

1st Half
.293 .340 .466 .805

2nd Half
.273 .335 .455 .790

But much better than 2025 fall off.

His conditioning is terrible, needs to drop 25 lbs.

He is just fine at his weight. Not everyone can be built like Willie Mcgee. And what do you know about his conditioning and how strong he is?

he said it and he is not wrong

p.s. he is talking about batting average you silly geese

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:27 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:18 pm

Shady wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 12:00 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average

Burleson is putting together another productive season. And he's trending upward going into next season. As opposed to last season.

Nope, not trending "upward".

1st Half
.293 .340 .466 .805

2nd Half
.273 .335 .455 .790

But much better than 2025 fall off.

His conditioning is terrible, needs to drop 25 lbs.

He is just fine at his weight. Not everyone can be built like Willie Mcgee. And what do you know about his conditioning and how strong he is?

No he's not, at 6'/225lbs (listed but looks heavier) he's a good 25 lbs over weight.