Contreras

[Goldfan]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

[ecleme22]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

Picture a line graph with two lines.

One line spikes every time Contreras is in a slump or is injured.
The other line shows every time OldRed writes a negative OP about Contreras.

The lines would be identical. OldRed doesn't like Contreras.


REALITY CHECK: WC has been an asset this year. And unless he's blocking some future stud, he is blocking nobody.

[Horseradish]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

[Goldfan]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

[OldRed]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

Picture a line graph with two lines.

One line spikes every time Contreras is in a slump or is injured.
The other line shows every time OldRed writes a negative OP about Contreras.

The lines would be identical. OldRed doesn't like Contreras.


REALITY CHECK: WC has been an asset this year. And unless he's blocking some future stud, he is blocking nobody.

How do you know what or who I like? You sound like you are taking lessons from Cranny. I post facts and you can't handle the facts. He was moved to first to make room for Hererra, how did that work out? I don't consider 80 RBI and 20 Hrs great production from first base. He will be another year older next season. In my opinion it is time to move on from him if it is possible.

[Horseradish]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

[Goldfan]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

If you believe WC moving to 1b this season Unleashed the great power hitter within…….good for you!!!
And you do understand that HR is a counting stat…..and given he played in the MOST games of career and hit
21
22
20
15
In years while he was Catching and playing fewer games…….one might wonder why he didn’t hit more HR NOT catching and playing MORE games this season????

[Horseradish]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

If you believe WC moving to 1b this season Unleashed the great power hitter within…….good for you!!!
And you do understand that HR is a counting stat…..and given he played in the MOST games of career and hit
21
22
20
15
In years while he was Catching and playing fewer games…….one might wonder why he didn’t hit more HR NOT catching and playing MORE games this season????

Moving goalposts again I see? Your words were “career averages”, thus I provided his career average HRs per season. I’m done with your inability to look things up too, since he actually played more games in 2018. You can’t even look things up properly

[Goldfan]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

If you believe WC moving to 1b this season Unleashed the great power hitter within…….good for you!!!
And you do understand that HR is a counting stat…..and given he played in the MOST games of career and hit
21
22
20
15
In years while he was Catching and playing fewer games…….one might wonder why he didn’t hit more HR NOT catching and playing MORE games this season????

Moving goalposts again I see? Your words were “career averages”, thus I provided his career average HRs per season. I’m done with your inability to look things up too, since he actually played more games in 2018. You can’t even look things up properly

What your point here? Mine is that his offense wasn’t improved by moving to 1B and playing more games…..you don’t seem to understand conventional stats so let’s move the favorite WAR
He recorded his lowest WAR ….2.6….other than his rookie season when he played 57 games and another year when he played 74…..

[ecleme22]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

Picture a line graph with two lines.

One line spikes every time Contreras is in a slump or is injured.
The other line shows every time OldRed writes a negative OP about Contreras.

The lines would be identical. OldRed doesn't like Contreras.


REALITY CHECK: WC has been an asset this year. And unless he's blocking some future stud, he is blocking nobody.

How do you know what or who I like? You sound like you are taking lessons from Cranny. I post facts and you can't handle the facts. He was moved to first to make room for Hererra, how did that work out? I don't consider 80 RBI and 20 Hrs great production from first base. He will be another year older next season. In my opinion it is time to move on from him if it is possible.

There are obvious patterns. LOL

It's not WC's fault IH can't catch. Are you really blaming him?

WC had a 122 OPS+ and around an .850 OPS from April 14th to now...

[Horseradish]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

If you believe WC moving to 1b this season Unleashed the great power hitter within…….good for you!!!
And you do understand that HR is a counting stat…..and given he played in the MOST games of career and hit
21
22
20
15
In years while he was Catching and playing fewer games…….one might wonder why he didn’t hit more HR NOT catching and playing MORE games this season????

Moving goalposts again I see? Your words were “career averages”, thus I provided his career average HRs per season. I’m done with your inability to look things up too, since he actually played more games in 2018. You can’t even look things up properly

What your point here? Mine is that his offense wasn’t improved by moving to 1B and playing more games…..you don’t seem to understand conventional stats so let’s move the favorite WAR
He recorded his lowest WAR ….2.6….other than his rookie season when he played 57 games and another year when he played 74…..

My point is that you’re arguing against something that was never said, or only said by you. Literally no one expected his offense to improve by moving to 1B and if they did it was unjustified.

And now you bring up WAR, something that you never use unless it makes your argument. FYI, there is another model from Fangraphs that is generally more respected and does not agree with your statement that this was his lowest WAR for his career. Not surprised you picked the one that made your case.

[Goldfan]

LOL….if I had a dime for every correct prediction…..
Got a couple more RBI’s out of him, but as I said many times if you expect a 33yr old MLer with a long track record to become something he’s never been……you might be Mo or a poster on CT

his offensive numbers are fine. rbis are a team stat and would be higher if we didnt have such (bleep) in the 1 and 2 hole most the season.

hes an above average hitter among other 1b in the league. is he a top 5 1b in the league or mvp caliber player? no. but hes not the problem. the weak production weve gotten from nootbar(another guy youve been down on forever, you cam claim victory on that) scott walker pages and arenadohas been way more problematic.

if herrera wasnt gonna stick at catcher though, i think it would have been better to keep contreras at catcher

Just confirmed that’s his season stat line…….same ole Contreras….so these hopes of full season PA with enhanced performance was a dream.

Nice straw man, I don’t recall many saying they expected his offense to improve with the positional change, just that they would get more production from more games played.

He had a few more rbi….all other stats are down

Again, he played more games, that was the goal. He only played in 84 games in 2024 and as a result he only had 36 RBI instead of 80 RBI in 135 games played. Most of his rate stats are close to his career averages so I really don’t know what you’re whining about.

The supporting cast around him was terrible, one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Just seems like you were rooting against him all season….

His avg, OBP, Slg, OPS, HR are BELOW his career avgs……despite playing 135 games, most of his career he only improved his high in RBI’s by 6.
And he still managed to miss 27 games DESPITE not being behind the plate.
Goldy played 150-160 games each season…….
Bottom line Contreras finds ways to get injured despite not putting a C mitt and his numbers are no better than when he behind the plate.
Which is exactly what I predicted at the begging of the season. He’s an offensive asset at C, but an avg bat at 1B…..
The depressing standards that CT holds this current Cards Team to…..
The 1b/3b HOPEFULLY hit .250 and hit 15-20HR
The OF HOPEFULLY hits .230 with 15HR

I think it’s quite an impressive skill for you to split hairs and move goalposts simultaneously so congrats on that. You’re also wrong about HRs when comparing to career average per season even when I include his 2025 in the averages.

AVG: Career=.258 , 2025=.257
SLG: Career=.459 , 2025=.447
OPS: Career=.811 , 2025=.791
HR: Career avg per season=17.2 , 2025= 20 HR

If you believe WC moving to 1b this season Unleashed the great power hitter within…….good for you!!!
And you do understand that HR is a counting stat…..and given he played in the MOST games of career and hit
21
22
20
15
In years while he was Catching and playing fewer games…….one might wonder why he didn’t hit more HR NOT catching and playing MORE games this season????

Moving goalposts again I see? Your words were “career averages”, thus I provided his career average HRs per season. I’m done with your inability to look things up too, since he actually played more games in 2018. You can’t even look things up properly

What your point here? Mine is that his offense wasn’t improved by moving to 1B and playing more games…..you don’t seem to understand conventional stats so let’s move the favorite WAR
He recorded his lowest WAR ….2.6….other than his rookie season when he played 57 games and another year when he played 74…..

My point is that you’re arguing against something that was never said, or only said by you. Literally no one expected his offense to improve by moving to 1B and if they did it was unjustified.

And now you bring up WAR, something that you never use unless it makes your argument. FYI, there is another model from Fangraphs that is generally more respected and does not agree with your statement that this was his lowest WAR for his career. Not surprised you picked the one that made your case.

“Literally NO ONE expected his offense to improve by moving to 1b”……
I just looked at his WAR…….no cherry picking……perhaps your “Favorite WAR” tell a different story
But you’re really going on record here….stating that NO ONE on CT posited that moving WC to 1b for ‘25 would:
Keep him healthy to play a full season(which he won’t)
Keep him healthy to allow him to have better production(which he hasn’t)
Allow him to focus on hitting for better production(which didn’t materialize)
You’re writing that none of those things were written about on this CT forum at the beginning of ‘25 season???

[Horseradish]

“Literally NO ONE expected his offense to improve by moving to 1b”……
I just looked at his WAR…….no cherry picking……perhaps your “Favorite WAR” tell a different story
But you’re really going on record here….stating that NO ONE on CT posited that moving WC to 1b for ‘25 would:
Keep him healthy to play a full season(which he won’t)
Keep him healthy to allow him to have better production(which he hasn’t)
Allow him to focus on hitting for better production(which didn’t materialize)
You’re writing that none of those things were written about on this CT forum at the beginning of ‘25 season???

For the millionth time, the organization and most posters here knew the change was to improve his availability, and did not expect his offense to magically improve above career averages. If you have examples that show the Cardinals made statements to that effect, even if they were just hoping for it, feel free to share. I personally didn’t expect him to all of the sudden be a better hitter by switching to 1B, but I did think he would play more games as a result of the change, which did happen.

You keep pushing your narrative about offensive improvement as if everyone was saying it, but can’t provide a single example of someone actually saying that…

[Strummer Jones]

I don't mind those numbers. And that's also considering that he was ice cold for about a month back when the season started.

For what we're paying him? I'd say those numbers are acceptable.

[rockondlouie]

WillyC rank among NL 1st Basemen:

-4th in OB%
-5th in HR's, Doubles & RBI's (only two behind F. Freeman who is 3rd, one behind Busch who is 4th)
-6th in OPS, Hits & Runs

-2nd with a +6 OAA

[scoutyjones2]

Move him to first so he can play a full season.

135 games
20 Hrs
80 RBI
44 BB
142 K's
.791 OPS

In my opinion it is time for him to go.

What? I don't understand your post. He is playing a full season. He is playing 1B.
And it's definitely not time for him to go. He's the teams best hitter and a leader.

So your 1b and “best hitter”
.250, 20HR, 80rbi…..All you need to know about the state of Cards baseball

Look around the league at 1b (bleep)