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I will repeat that Mozeliak handing Mikolas an extension would not surprise me. Nor would it shock me if he gave Marmol another extension before leaving the job.

For those who will argue that Bloom won't allow it, remember these two details.

1. Bloom isn't POBO yet.

2. DeWitt makes final decision on any conflicting issues between Mo and Bloom. DeWitt may side with Mo. Especially if Mikolas extension is cheap.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 09:39 am

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 23:11 pm I don't see Mikolas coming back as a Cardinal. But, probably wouldn't whine if he got a 1 year contract for 5M. He has been our most consistent in a wildly inconsistent rotation.

8 years is enough.

Has it been 8 years?

Crikey. It has. Unless you don't count 2020 when he didn't pitch.

For over 100 reasons I do not want to sign him. However if they do cheaply and plan to slot him as a 5 or bullpen and there is not a ready option internally, I can live with it.

Bottom line you need arms. If he is cheap you can always DFA him or trade him for a hot bottle of pop.

Jatalk wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 12:42 pm For over 100 reasons I do not want to sign him. However if they do cheaply and plan to slot him as a 5 or bullpen and there is not a ready option internally, I can live with it.

Bottom line you need arms. If he is cheap you can always DFA him or trade him for a hot bottle of pop.

This is Dollar Store mentality. You get what you pay for. Let him be the Pirates' problem.

icon wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 12:56 pm

Jatalk wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 12:42 pm For over 100 reasons I do not want to sign him. However if they do cheaply and plan to slot him as a 5 or bullpen and there is not a ready option internally, I can live with it.

Bottom line you need arms. If he is cheap you can always DFA him or trade him for a hot bottle of pop.

This is Dollar Store mentality. You get what you pay for. Let him be the Pirates' problem.

The point is they'll probably have to pay for at least 1 starter, and it'll be a back-end type. So it's not totally illogical that it would be known-quantity Mikolas if he accepts a massive pay cut ($7-10M).

For those wanting to bring him back, even at a reduced price let me re-post:

He's been a BUM for three years (96 GS: 4.97 ERA)

Bloom can find a dozen pitchers for under $2M who are better than that!

NO and h e l l no to bringing this clown back.


GOOD RIDDANCE

The cardinals have a lot of questions with their rotation next season MM isn’t the answer to any of them

rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 14:03 pm For those wanting to bring him back, even at a reduced price let me re-post:

He's been a BUM for three years (96 GS: 4.97 ERA)

Bloom can find a dozen pitchers for under $2M who are better than that!

NO and h e l l no to bringing this clown back.


GOOD RIDDANCE

And again, he has the stench of Mozeliak all over him. Time to hold the nose and flush.

Charles King wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 09:32 am

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025 23:11 pm I don't see Mikolas coming back as a Cardinal. But, probably wouldn't whine if he got a 1 year contract for 5M. He has been our most consistent in a wildly inconsistent rotation.

Yes

5M is ok
If he is bad. DFA HIM

Gross

icon wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 12:56 pm

Jatalk wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 12:42 pm For over 100 reasons I do not want to sign him. However if they do cheaply and plan to slot him as a 5 or bullpen and there is not a ready option internally, I can live with it.

Bottom line you need arms. If he is cheap you can always DFA him or trade him for a hot bottle of pop.

This is Dollar Store mentality. You get what you pay for. Let him be the Pirates' problem.

We are Dollar Store #2

rockondlouie got it right repeatedly.

Good riddance after 8 mostly awful years, his contract years excluded.

Better crapshoot SP for less is always readily available.