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Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 08:52 am
by Imperial Capitalist
If they'd engaged in a true rebuild, which would have started in 2023, then the turn-around would take place sooner.

However, since they've pursued a more slo-mo rebuild, it will take relatively longer - I'd agree with the 2029 estimate.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 08:56 am
by 2ninr
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Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 12:23 pm
by Ordinary Man
Melville wrote: 13 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
Dewey Kuey wrote: 13 Sep 2025 13:04 pm Cardinals win top spot in their division again?

5 years...what do you think?
In 30 days or less, I could make the Cardinals a 50/50 contender to win the division in 2026 - and 75/25 to gain a WC spot.
As could any competent leader.
Only 4 decisions need to be made and executed - each of which is rather easily accomplished.
So, with creating those 50/50 odds, STL could quite realistically win the division next year or the year following.
Not difficult at all.
Now, how long will it take Bloom to do so?
Too soon to say - but I should have a perfect analysis of him by the end of January.
Can't you do it sooner? I won't be able to sleep.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 12:43 pm
by Punkk6
Melville wrote: 13 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
Dewey Kuey wrote: 13 Sep 2025 13:04 pm Cardinals win top spot in their division again?

5 years...what do you think?
In 30 days or less, I could make the Cardinals a 50/50 contender to win the division in 2026 - and 75/25 to gain a WC spot.
As could any competent leader.
Only 4 decisions need to be made and executed - each of which is rather easily accomplished.
So, with creating those 50/50 odds, STL could quite realistically win the division next year or the year following.
Not difficult at all.
Now, how long will it take Bloom to do so?
Too soon to say - but I should have a perfect analysis of him by the end of January.
Please stop, its clear they will NOT spend big Money till the 2027 contract is settled.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 12:50 pm
by 60 year Cardinal fan
OldRed wrote: 14 Sep 2025 08:50 am
Dewey Kuey wrote: 13 Sep 2025 13:04 pm Cardinals win top spot in their division again?

5 years...what do you think?
I doubt I will be around to see it happen. I can only hope.
I’m in the same boat Red.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 14 Sep 2025 13:06 pm
by Melville
Punkk6 wrote: 14 Sep 2025 12:43 pm
Melville wrote: 13 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
Dewey Kuey wrote: 13 Sep 2025 13:04 pm Cardinals win top spot in their division again?

5 years...what do you think?
In 30 days or less, I could make the Cardinals a 50/50 contender to win the division in 2026 - and 75/25 to gain a WC spot.
As could any competent leader.
Only 4 decisions need to be made and executed - each of which is rather easily accomplished.
So, with creating those 50/50 odds, STL could quite realistically win the division next year or the year following.
Not difficult at all.
Now, how long will it take Bloom to do so?
Too soon to say - but I should have a perfect analysis of him by the end of January.
Please stop, its clear they will NOT spend big Money till the 2027 contract is settled.
In 30 days or less, I could make the Cardinals a 50/50 contender to win the division in 2026 - and 75/25 to gain a WC spot.
As could any competent leader.
Without necessarily spending hundreds of millions of dollars on FA's.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 17 Sep 2025 14:00 pm
by Dewey Kuey
mattmitchl44 wrote: 13 Sep 2025 15:37 pm I'll take just under, 4 years (by 2029).
Pretty close to my thinking. My biggest concern is putting together a pitching staff to do it. The front office will never spend the kind of money it will take to put it together. And developing those type pitchers isn't easy and once they get their chance it takes a few years of pitching in the majors before they put it all together.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 17 Sep 2025 14:49 pm
by 3dender
Under just bc this division is not a perennial powerhouse.

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 17 Sep 2025 16:07 pm
by 45s
6 minimum

Re: Over/Under How many years until....

Posted: 17 Sep 2025 16:44 pm
by Goldfan
Why do you assume this org can return to an elite contending status? The utter collapse and demise from top to bottom has Been so extreme theres no guarantee it will return to previous glory. The owner is obviously awol. The new leadership has not REAL tract record of complete successful overhaul. The field manager and staff have no pedigree. EVERY correction from mediocrity in Cards history had a historical force of baseball saving it. That is not present here.