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Posted: **11 Sep 2025 20:42 pm**

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 17:38 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 16:01 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 12:14 pm Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?

Answer, of course, is no one.

And even if a "Goldy'NADO" deal was pulled off by C. Bloom, BDWJr is NOT going to okay the move since those type players are in the
$20M - $40+M AAV range.
"Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?" My guess, Mason Winn could bring one or the other. Wetherholt has been playing a lot of shortstop in the minors this season. I'm not advocating trading Winn. I am just answering the question with my opinion.
No chance.

There isn't a POBO/GM in MLB who would give the Cardinals a "power hitter" or a "FOTR" starter for an all glove, light hitting
(career: .252 .304 .376 .680) SS.

That said, I'd have no issue dealing Winn in a package that brings back a #2 starter w/years of control.

But no way he brings back that TOTR/#1 starter.
You are underestimating the value of a young, Gold Glove caliber shortstop. For Winn, a crafty GM could get a #2 starting pitcher with some years of contract control or a talented young power hitter from a team that is overstocked at a position/positions, no doubt
Why don’t you give some specific names. You just said you’re NOT advocating trading Winn. So whom would a “crafty GM” trade who realistically would fetch a “young, cost-controlled” TOTR pitcher OR MOTO power hitter, let alone BOTH?

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Oh, you wrote “crafty.” My error.

Posted: **11 Sep 2025 21:01 pm**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 11:57 am Or will DeWitt need to OK signing/paying some high priced FAs to fill those needs? How about one by a trade and one FA? That seems to make some sense.

I meant to pass on that your 3rd grade teacher- all 4 of them- said, “wow. He learned to write?”

Posted: **11 Sep 2025 22:30 pm**

The Cards will make trades to acquire pitching, but it will me minor league guys. I believe the plan is to contend in 2027 or 2028.

Posted: **12 Sep 2025 08:17 am**

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 16:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 12:14 pm Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?

Answer, of course, is no one.

And even if a "Goldy'NADO" deal was pulled off by C. Bloom, BDWJr is NOT going to okay the move since those type players are in the
$20M - $40+M AAV range.
"Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?" My guess, Mason Winn could bring one or the other. Wetherholt has been playing a lot of shortstop in the minors this season. I'm not advocating trading Winn. I am just answering the question with my opinion.
No chance.

There isn't a POBO/GM in MLB who would give the Cardinals a "power hitter" or a "FOTR" starter for an all glove, light hitting
(career: .252 .304 .376 .680) SS.

That said, I'd have no issue dealing Winn in a package that brings back a #2 starter w/years of control.

But no way he brings back that TOTR/#1 starter.
"Why do you hate Winn?"

Ecleme

Posted: **12 Sep 2025 08:20 am**

Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 16:01 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 12:14 pm Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?

Answer, of course, is no one.

And even if a "Goldy'NADO" deal was pulled off by C. Bloom, BDWJr is NOT going to okay the move since those type players are in the
$20M - $40+M AAV range.
"Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?" My guess, Mason Winn could bring one or the other. Wetherholt has been playing a lot of shortstop in the minors this season. I'm not advocating trading Winn. I am just answering the question with my opinion.
No chance.

There isn't a POBO/GM in MLB who would give the Cardinals a "power hitter" or a "FOTR" starter for an all glove, light hitting
(career: .252 .304 .376 .680) SS.

That said, I'd have no issue dealing Winn in a package that brings back a #2 starter w/years of control.

But no way he brings back that TOTR/#1 starter.
You are underestimating the value of a young, Gold Glove caliber shortstop. For Winn, a crafty GM could get a #2 starting pitcher with some years of contract control or a talented young power hitter from a team that is overstocked at a position/positions, no doubt

Ha!

And you're buying into the overhype.

I like Winn, great glove and super arm.

But it's plain to see he's only an average-to-below average hitter and a bad base stealer.

ZERO chance you could a "a talented young power hitter" for Winn, ZERO.

You might be able to get that #2 starter for Winn + Burleson though.

Posted: **12 Sep 2025 08:51 am**

If the question is, is he able to do these things- yes, he is able. The question is, will he pay the price? How risk-averse will he be?

Posted: **12 Sep 2025 09:48 am**

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 12:14 pm Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?

Answer, of course, is no one.

And even if a "Goldy'NADO" deal was pulled off by C. Bloom, BDWJr is NOT going to okay the move since those type players are in the
$20M - $40+M AAV range.
"Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?" My guess, Mason Winn could bring one or the other. Wetherholt has been playing a lot of shortstop in the minors this season. I'm not advocating trading Winn. I am just answering the question with my opinion.
No chance.

There isn't a POBO/GM in MLB who would give the Cardinals a "power hitter" or a "FOTR" starter for an all glove, light hitting
(career: .252 .304 .376 .680) SS.

That said, I'd have no issue dealing Winn in a package that brings back a #2 starter w/years of control.

But no way he brings back that TOTR/#1 starter.

The Yankees need a shortstop. They might consider trading Spencer Jones for Winn or JJ.

Posted: **12 Sep 2025 10:26 am**

KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 09:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 14:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 12:14 pm Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?

Answer, of course, is no one.

And even if a "Goldy'NADO" deal was pulled off by C. Bloom, BDWJr is NOT going to okay the move since those type players are in the
$20M - $40+M AAV range.
"Who on this current roster could bring back a "power hitter" and a "TOTR starter" via trades?" My guess, Mason Winn could bring one or the other. Wetherholt has been playing a lot of shortstop in the minors this season. I'm not advocating trading Winn. I am just answering the question with my opinion.
No chance.

There isn't a POBO/GM in MLB who would give the Cardinals a "power hitter" or a "FOTR" starter for an all glove, light hitting
(career: .252 .304 .376 .680) SS.

That said, I'd have no issue dealing Winn in a package that brings back a #2 starter w/years of control.

But no way he brings back that TOTR/#1 starter.
The Yankees need a shortstop. They might consider trading Spencer Jones for Winn or JJ.

NO WAY I deal them JJW.

And he's not a proven major league "power hitter", just a prospect.

I wouldn't deal Winn for a prospect, has to be a proven major league starter or hitter.

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