Is it time for the Walker Gorman experiment to end?

[3dender]

Does not look like they will ever hit much over 200. Has their time come to an end here. Dal Maxvill probably could hit like this?

Sorry it's tough to take you seriously when in the year of our lord 2025 you're basing your entire analysis off of batting average.

Maybe you're right but it's definitely not for that reason.

[rockondlouie]

Walker's time is drawing near.

With over 1,000 PA's in MLB he's regressing both at the plate and in RF.

I'd have no issue moving on from him if C. Bloom thinks it's time to cut the cord this winter or anytime in 2026.

Gorman though is a different story.

He does indeed posses rare raw power, albet he hasn't shown it consistently yet.

I posted this comp in another thread on Gorman:

TGKS Age 22 - 25
1274 PA's
72 HR
163 RBI
174 BB's
379 KO's
.228 .339 .470 .809

Gorman Age 22 - 25
1517 PA's
74 HR
205 RBI
158 BB's
507 KO's
.222 .305 .430 .734

I would NOT give up on Gorman.

He may never be more than an average 3rd baseman, could even be a fulltime DH.

But he's the best power bat in the entire organization that severely lacks home run power.

JMO

Two years ago, Gorman had better numbers than Mike Schmidt.

There's just nothing in his present numbers to suggest Gorman is going to become Kyle Schwarber.

Nor does he have to be, but even at 70% of the TGKS he'd be a 30+ HR bat and that's something this team desperately needs.

He's not making big money, I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

[Melville]

Gorman has 74 HR, 131 XBH's, 188 runs, and 205 RBI in 1517 career PA's - despite the Cardinals stupid handling of him in denying regular playing time over the past 2 seasons.
That is an annual full-season career pace of 30+ HR, 80+ runs, and 90+ RBI - which is elite production at either 2b or 3b.
In 2024/25, in 740 PA's, which equates to barely more than 1 full season, he has 33 HR, 24 doubles, 94 RBI, and 85 runs scored.
He is easily the team's 2nd most productive hitter behind only Contreras.
He has also shown himself to be a solid if unspectacular glove at both 2b and 3b.
Yes, it is time for STL to stop experimenting with Gorman.
He should be a full-time lineup fixture for the next several years.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
As for Walker.....

[rockondlouie]

Walker's time is drawing near.

With over 1,000 PA's in MLB he's regressing both at the plate and in RF.

I'd have no issue moving on from him if C. Bloom thinks it's time to cut the cord this winter or anytime in 2026.

Gorman though is a different story.

He does indeed posses rare raw power, albet he hasn't shown it consistently yet.

I posted this comp in another thread on Gorman:

TGKS Age 22 - 25
1274 PA's
72 HR
163 RBI
174 BB's
379 KO's
.228 .339 .470 .809

Gorman Age 22 - 25
1517 PA's
74 HR
205 RBI
158 BB's
507 KO's
.222 .305 .430 .734

I would NOT give up on Gorman.

He may never be more than an average 3rd baseman, could even be a fulltime DH.

But he's the best power bat in the entire organization that severely lacks home run power.

JMO

That is pretty much spot on. It also emphasizes how important it is for the Cards to be able to trade Arenado this off season in order to make room for both Gorman and Wetherholdt into the line-up and to play the infield. At this point, Gorman is a much better hitter than Arenado which only goes to show how far Arenado has fallen...

I have mixed emotions on Walker. Nootbar just due to the time frame of the Cardinals next window, I think they should trade. He has a 20 trade value per Baseball trade value. But we will see.

Thx ICC

And I agree w/you, dealing NADO is a must this offseason. I'd bet he expands the list of teams he's willing to go to.

I could see both Donny and/or Noot dealt, one for sure since they'd bring back (in a package) a decent return.