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Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:13 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:59 am Just Worthless.

Bad fielder, terrible hitter
Is/was my favorite player. Saw so much potential. Honestly hurts me that a talented player like Walker is headed down sentimental street.
I can't recall seeing any potential/talent
When he first came up he was on it. That’s potential. We all know the stories of hereafter.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 09:13 am
by scoutyjones2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:13 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:59 am Just Worthless.

Bad fielder, terrible hitter
Is/was my favorite player. Saw so much potential. Honestly hurts me that a talented player like Walker is headed down sentimental street.
I can't recall seeing any potential/talent
When he first came up he was on it. That’s potential. We all know the stories of hereafter.
Nah. He was hot for a moment. League figures him out and you see the results

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 09:15 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:13 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:27 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:13 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:59 am Just Worthless.

Bad fielder, terrible hitter
Is/was my favorite player. Saw so much potential. Honestly hurts me that a talented player like Walker is headed down sentimental street.
I can't recall seeing any potential/talent
When he first came up he was on it. That’s potential. We all know the stories of hereafter.
Nah. He was hot for a moment. League figures him out and you see the results
Possibly. You’re often right. But the timing as suspect- take hot rookie and try and make him a better toy. They broke it.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 10:20 am
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:59 am Just Worthless.

Bad fielder, terrible hitter
He’s just terrible this season. I have no clue what you do with him.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 10:48 am
by scoutyjones2
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 02 Sep 2025 10:20 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 07:59 am Just Worthless.

Bad fielder, terrible hitter
He’s just terrible this season. I have no clue what you do with him.
AA...prove it for 30+ games. AAA if he makes progression...but needs 60+ games of proof...

If he still sucks, gotta let him go and wish him well.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 12:42 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
If Elon Musk buys the Cardinals then we can fix everything. Cardinals have scored 606 runs. Every other team in the NL Central has allowed fewer than 606 runs. Cardinals have allowed 65 more runs than any team in the NL Central. Pitching has to be the priority.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 12:52 pm
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
If Elon Musk buys the Cardinals then we can fix everything. Cardinals have scored 606 runs. Every other team in the NL Central has allowed fewer than 606 runs. Cardinals have allowed 65 more runs than any team in the NL Central. Pitching has to be the priority.
Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 12:58 pm
by Wattage
blackinkbiz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 17:48 pm
CCard wrote: 01 Sep 2025 17:10 pm I sorely disappointed with his hitting. I was hoping for at least .250 with double digit Hr's and he's been pretty bland. He has all the tools but he's just not using them. Can coaching help? I don't know, is he even coachable? Did he hit like this in the minors? None of the Cards outfielders are doing the job. Noot, Scott and Walker are very poor this year. Scott should be hitting down on the ball and using his speed. Noot has shown flashes of promise but at this point he's more of a 4th outfielder I think. And Walker, well, he needs to go back down and prove himself. Can Whetherholt play outfield?
Had a good season at AA in 22, followed it up with an even better Fall League that year, and after the fan discontent at Mo's offseason thrift isle shopping, he was rushed to MLB after a decent 3 weeks of Spring Training in 23 to distract the fans with a shiny new toy. Started off great, finished the season strong, and it's all been downhill from there. Whatever THIS org is teaching him, it's either not sticking or not working.

He can't go down again this year without being DFA'd--so I've been told. Hopefully they start him at AAA next year with a new personal hitting coach or something and he stays there until he dominates and figures out how to recognize a pitch and for the love of God, move at least 6 inches closer to the plate.
Thats incorrect. He has an option year left. But he has only 1 option year remaining and has stayed in majors this far into the year that they are better off waiting and optioning him next year instead of burning his option year now. Cuz if they burn his option year now he wont be able to be optioned next year if he doesnt figure it out in offseason.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 14:48 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:52 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
If Elon Musk buys the Cardinals then we can fix everything. Cardinals have scored 606 runs. Every other team in the NL Central has allowed fewer than 606 runs. Cardinals have allowed 65 more runs than any team in the NL Central. Pitching has to be the priority.
Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
Asked and answered.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 15:20 pm
by scoutyjones2
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 14:48 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:52 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
If Elon Musk buys the Cardinals then we can fix everything. Cardinals have scored 606 runs. Every other team in the NL Central has allowed fewer than 606 runs. Cardinals have allowed 65 more runs than any team in the NL Central. Pitching has to be the priority.
Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
Asked and answered.
I disagree that pitching is the only issue. You only looked at NL Central. They play all teams. One hitter with an 800 OPS...for now. One player with 20 HRs. Nobody with a negative run diff is making the playoffs. Cards have the 11th worst run diff.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 17:06 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 15:20 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 14:48 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:52 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 12:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:49 am Cardinals problem is pitching.
So impressed with the hitting? 8O

Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
If Elon Musk buys the Cardinals then we can fix everything. Cardinals have scored 606 runs. Every other team in the NL Central has allowed fewer than 606 runs. Cardinals have allowed 65 more runs than any team in the NL Central. Pitching has to be the priority.
Can't it be both? Or does it have to only be one?
Asked and answered.
I disagree that pitching is the only issue. You only looked at NL Central. They play all teams. One hitter with an 800 OPS...for now. One player with 20 HRs. Nobody with a negative run diff is making the playoffs. Cards have the 11th worst run diff.
Pitching isn't the only issue but it is the biggest issue and they have to prioritize with the new fiscal reality they are in. Can't fix everything.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 19:01 pm
by JuanAgosto
He needs to go down and actually earn his way back. An extended period of consistency before coming back to StL.

Re: I was a big fan of Walker but he needs to go down.

Posted: 02 Sep 2025 19:05 pm
by Ozziesfan41
JuanAgosto wrote: 02 Sep 2025 19:01 pm He needs to go down and actually earn his way back. An extended period of consistency before coming back to StL.
Agree send him down next season after spring training no matter how well he does in spring training and then let him hit his way back to majors