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Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
by Cusecards
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
by Cusecards
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran
Ridiculous comment.
If you don’t like a player that is your prerogative but then you make yourself look foolish by posting nonsense.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:44 pm
by Ozziesfan41
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran
Ridiculous comment.
If you don’t like a player that is your prerogative but then you make yourself look foolish by posting nonsense.
Agree

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:44 pm
by ecleme22
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran
Ridiculous comment.
If you don’t like a player that is your prerogative but then you make yourself look foolish by posting nonsense.
You’re exactly right. He doesn’t like Ivan, nor Mayson.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:45 pm
by Ozziesfan41
ecleme22 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:44 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran
Ridiculous comment.
If you don’t like a player that is your prerogative but then you make yourself look foolish by posting nonsense.
You’re exactly right. He doesn’t like Ivan, nor Mayson.
He doesn’t like any player yet loves Mo who brought all those terrible players in

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 14:51 pm
by Cusecards
ecleme22 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:44 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:43 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:37 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:28 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 01 Sep 2025 14:19 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 12:17 pm Pages framing and pitcher whisperer [nonsense] are vastly overrated on here. He’s JAG.

.230 guy with average pop and average defensive ability. I’m not a fan of the dugout goofiness personally. That became a thing post AP when Waino became one of the defacto team leaders. Really dislike when nonperformers are the goofy guys.
He's more productive than Ivan and actually plays a defensive position fairly well
I don’t think so
Look at HR's and RBI's and # of ABs...if you are down on Pages, who can actually catch, you have to be upset with Ivan too...and he hits in a run producers slot in the lineup 8O
Pages is obviously the better defensive Catcher.
And tip of the hat for his hot August.
But....you are seriously saying that he is a MORE productive hitter than Herrera???
He’s a moran
Ridiculous comment.
If you don’t like a player that is your prerogative but then you make yourself look foolish by posting nonsense.
You’re exactly right. He doesn’t like Ivan, nor Mayson.
That appears to be obvious.
Thankfully....he’s NOT evaluating talent for the organization. 😉

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Pedro building some trade value late. By all accounts he is a decent guy, lot of openings for catchers throughout baseball. Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
by Basil Shabazz
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 15:26 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable
No it isn't. Put three players in the pot, Pages, Nootbaar, and Walker or Gorman and you can bring back a decent pitcher.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 15:57 pm
by Basil Shabazz
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:26 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable
No it isn't. Put three players in the pot, Pages, Nootbaar, and Walker or Gorman and you can bring back a decent pitcher.
That trade gets made with or without Pages.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 17:37 pm
by LewisL
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:26 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable
No it isn't. Put three players in the pot, Pages, Nootbaar, and Walker or Gorman and you can bring back a decent pitcher.
I don't see why any team would trade a quality starting pitcher for that package.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 18:11 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
LewisL wrote: 01 Sep 2025 17:37 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:26 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable
No it isn't. Put three players in the pot, Pages, Nootbaar, and Walker or Gorman and you can bring back a decent pitcher.
I don't see why any team would trade a quality starting pitcher for that package.
Not talking about Yamamoto. Just an upgrade over Mikolas or Pallante. That is very doable.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 19:56 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 18:11 pm
LewisL wrote: 01 Sep 2025 17:37 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:26 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:19 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 01 Sep 2025 15:13 pm Maybe they can turn him into a guy who can up the ante in a multi player trade for a starting pitcher.
Sorry, but that’s laughable
No it isn't. Put three players in the pot, Pages, Nootbaar, and Walker or Gorman and you can bring back a decent pitcher.
I don't see why any team would trade a quality starting pitcher for that package.
Not talking about Yamamoto. Just an upgrade over Mikolas or Pallante. That is very doable.
Agree.

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 20:20 pm
by icon
Question for Melville: How did Pages' catcher ERA do today?

Re: Pedro Pages

Posted: 01 Sep 2025 21:38 pm
by cardstatman
fWAR Cardinal Player of the Month

April: 1.2 Matthew Liberatore
May: 1.1 Masyn Winn
June: 0.9 Willson Contreras or Sonny Gray
July: 0.7 Masyn Winn
August: 1.2 Pedro Pages

Season through August: 3.4 Masyn Winn