Brant Brown, Dusty Blake, Oli Marmol.

[ScotchMIrish]

The pitching is obvious. Marmol has no idea what he is doing. Locked into a pitch count regardless of what is happening. The next manager needs to be a former player who understands the game of baseball. Preferably a former catcher or pitcher.

Do you have a certain someone in mind lol

I'm not clear as to Molina's role currently. Is he working in the minors like Matheny did before being hired? He would be an option but it would be better if he had put in the work in the minors. He would need a good bench coach if he got the managers job. Perhaps the Rangers will be dumb enough to fire Bochy.

[bretto12]

Typical Cards talk blabber. The house is on fire and you guys want to water the flowers. IT IS THE PLAYERS. Joe Torre was bad is STL and great in NY, Why? BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS.

look at La Russa...3 great years and a WS when he had the players, his last 3 years the team was terrible. Did La Russa forget how to manage? No, his players were no good. He comes to STL, gets good players and wins.

C'mon guys, this ain't hard to figure out. You want to blame the manager because he is an east target, but he is not the problem.

[bretto12]

Typical Cards talk blabber. The house is on fire and you guys want to water the flowers. IT IS THE PLAYERS. Joe Torre was bad is STL and great in NY, Why? BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS.

look at La Russa...3 great years and a WS when he had the players, his last 3 years the team was terrible. Did La Russa forget how to manage? No, his players were no good. He comes to STL, gets good players and wins.

C'mon guys, this ain't hard to figure out. You want to blame the manager because he is an east target, but he is not the problem.

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Typical Cards talk blabber. The house is on fire and you guys want to water the flowers. IT IS THE PLAYERS. Joe Torre was bad is STL and great in NY, Why? BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS.

look at La Russa...3 great years and a WS when he had the players, his last 3 years the team was terrible. Did La Russa forget how to manage? No, his players were no good. He comes to STL, gets good players and wins.

C'mon guys, this ain't hard to figure out. You want to blame the manager because he is an east target, but he is not the problem.

The manager is part of the problem. And since the Cardinals are starting over with a new POBO, why shouldn't he have his own manager? It makes sense, doesn't it?

[ramfandan]

The team is lower in many of the hitting stats from 2024.
The young players haven't made any remarkable gains.
Hell, if anything they've sort of declined.
Seems to me the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Lord knows, Dusty Blake should have been gone in 2024.
Check out the team hitting and pitching stats.
If we get these clowns again in 2026, there should be a revolt.

Regarding the hitting coach. How many hitting coaches has this group had while in St Louis? Maybe it’s the hitters not the coaches?

Bully, you said check out the team hitting stats . I wanted to see how batting avg. currently compares to last year. In 2024, the team had .248
currently 2025 , the team is hitting .247 just one point less .
Then I remember a graph that was shown on pregame show. The past month or so , the off. numbers have declines quite a bit . Makes sense as the team has lost Donovan (one of team's best hitters for battning arage ) Losing top hitters is not the fault of the hitting coach. Herrera was lost for a long time too and stats diminished.
While stating this is not supporting Brown to retain his job or not, I guess Bloom will have his analytics department look closely at the numbers.
Think most would agree losing Donovan for this extended period made the offense slack off considerably. Having Saggese, Fermin, and Prieto doesn't quite replace the production.

[Bully4you]

The team is lower in many of the hitting stats from 2024.
The young players haven't made any remarkable gains.
Hell, if anything they've sort of declined.
Seems to me the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Lord knows, Dusty Blake should have been gone in 2024.
Check out the team hitting and pitching stats.
If we get these clowns again in 2026, there should be a revolt.

Regarding the hitting coach. How many hitting coaches has this group had while in St Louis? Maybe it’s the hitters not the coaches?

Bully, you said check out the team hitting stats . I wanted to see how batting avg. currently compares to last year. In 2024, the team had .248
currently 2025 , the team is hitting .247 just one point less .
Then I remember a graph that was shown on pregame show. The past month or so , the off. numbers have declines quite a bit . Makes sense as the team has lost Donovan (one of team's best hitters for battning arage ) Losing top hitters is not the fault of the hitting coach. Herrera was lost for a long time too and stats diminished.
While stating this is not supporting Brown to retain his job or not, I guess Bloom will have his analytics department look closely at the numbers.
Think most would agree losing Donovan for this extended period made the offense slack off considerably. Having Saggese, Fermin, and Prieto doesn't quite replace the production.

I wasn't looking at batting average.
I checked OPS, Hr's, RBI's. On base %
I believe they've scored more runs.
But overall, they are bad.
Not any improvement over 2024.
And in a lot of cases worse.
Pitching is horrendous.
Nothing to write home about.

[Bully4you]

The team is lower in many of the hitting stats from 2024.
The young players haven't made any remarkable gains.
Hell, if anything they've sort of declined.
Seems to me the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Lord knows, Dusty Blake should have been gone in 2024.
Check out the team hitting and pitching stats.
If we get these clowns again in 2026, there should be a revolt.

If Oli is back in 2026 this team will not even sell out opening day. If they hit on a new manager this offseason i guarantee the fans will come back.

It won’t take a $30000000000000000000 offseason to bring the fans back. Just a little reassurance from the FO that they too…….have had it with the Mo era

Varitek and 3M fans

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The team is lower in many of the hitting stats from 2024.
The young players haven't made any remarkable gains.
Hell, if anything they've sort of declined.
Seems to me the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Lord knows, Dusty Blake should have been gone in 2024.
Check out the team hitting and pitching stats.
If we get these clowns again in 2026, there should be a revolt.

Regarding the hitting coach. How many hitting coaches has this group had while in St Louis? Maybe it’s the hitters not the coaches?

Bully, you said check out the team hitting stats . I wanted to see how batting avg. currently compares to last year. In 2024, the team had .248
currently 2025 , the team is hitting .247 just one point less .
Then I remember a graph that was shown on pregame show. The past month or so , the off. numbers have declines quite a bit . Makes sense as the team has lost Donovan (one of team's best hitters for battning arage ) Losing top hitters is not the fault of the hitting coach. Herrera was lost for a long time too and stats diminished.
While stating this is not supporting Brown to retain his job or not, I guess Bloom will have his analytics department look closely at the numbers.
Think most would agree losing Donovan for this extended period made the offense slack off considerably. Having Saggese, Fermin, and Prieto doesn't quite replace the production.

Batting average?! This offense is 27th in SLG, 25th in HRs, 23rd in OPS. This team needs slugging badly. And Donovan ain't it. Neither is Herrera.

[Bully4you]

The team is lower in many of the hitting stats from 2024.
The young players haven't made any remarkable gains.
Hell, if anything they've sort of declined.
Seems to me the entire coaching staff should be replaced.
Lord knows, Dusty Blake should have been gone in 2024.
Check out the team hitting and pitching stats.
If we get these clowns again in 2026, there should be a revolt.

I totally agree and hope Bloom agrees and sacks all 3 of them.

It’s time for this organization to do a deep enema flush.

Bloom has a lot of work to do.
He inherited one of the biggest messes in Cardinal history.

that's the truth, Bully

I really think this is a massive cleanup.
It ain't a 30 day deal like Melville says either.