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An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:02 pm

imadangman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 16:51 pm You called it Bloom speak but all I see are quotes from Katie Woo and Buster Olney (Buster Olney?). Where did Bloom speak?

By the way, does it tell you something about Buster Olney that he works for ESPN? The network that is no longer going to cover baseball?

I thought your second paragraph was something from Woo but it looks like that's just Cardly speak.

The OP is just verbal diarrhea

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.

D B A G move by OP

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.

D B A G move by OP

It really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decade

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decade

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:46 am

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decade

Try again (and the M. Betts trade was forced upon him by the owner) CHAIM (BTW same real first name of GENE SIMMONS from KISS) made some brilliant trades:


1)

Nick Piveta/SP

for

Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree

2)

Kyle Schwarber (aka TGKS)

for

Aldo Ramirez

3)

Wilyer Abreu

2025: 20 HRs/.808 OPS/121 OPS+

for

Christian Vázquez

imadangman wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:03 am Remember when Cardly wanted the Cards to sign Trevor Story. We all told him he was = to Paul DeJong outside of Coors Field and he just couldn't believe it. And now in his 4th season with Boston (with a lot of games missed) Story has a very PDJ-like .244/.300/.412 batting line.

Cardly is the quintessential shiny object poster where the shiny object always has to be some well-known (and likely declining and overpaid) name from another team that he knows nothing about other than the player's name and that they are "established"

I'd be curious what his plan is to contend for 2026. Where is he getting his #3 hitter, #4 hitter, and #2 starter?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.

D B A G move by OP

It really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.

Yes they do

riff raff wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.

D B A G move by OP

It really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.

Yes they do

Your hypocrisy is showing.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:41 am

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decade

C-H-A-I-M.

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:02 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:46 am

dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pm

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

don't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with Boston

Which ones?

google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decade

Try again (and the M. Betts trade was forced upon him by the owner) CHAIM (BTW same real first name of GENE SIMMONS from KISS) made some brilliant trades:


1)

Nick Piveta/SP

for

Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree

2)

Kyle Schwarber (aka TGKS)

for

Aldo Ramirez

3)

Wilyer Abreu

2025: 20 HRs/.808 OPS/121 OPS+

for

Christian Vázquez

The Bad Trades

1) Mookie Betts and David Price and cash for Alex Verdugo, Connor Wong and Jeter Downs

It’s a given that this trade was forced upon Bloom by ownership and he was merely carrying out orders. But he failed to get enough back for a generational player. Verdugo has been only slightly better than average while Wong is an adequate major league catcher. Downs flopped and is out of the organization. Fairly or not, this deal will go down as the most memorable of his tenure in Boston — and Bloom failed to maximize the return.

2) Traded Hunter Renfroe for Jackie Bradley Jr., David Hamilton and Alex Binelas

A disaster, no matter which way you cut it. While Renfroe was overrated by many, Bradley was essentially done when he was reacquired. Hamilton would seem to be a 4A player at best with speed and not much else to recommend about his game. Binelas is a fringy minor leaguer who is unlikely to contribute much — if anything — at the major league level.

3) Traded Jeffrey Springs and Chris Mazza for Ronaldo Hernandez and Nick Sogard

Bloom obtained Springs for Sam Travis in a deal with the Rangers and should have stopped there. Instead, he then turned around and packaged him for a catcher who hasn’t gotten out of Triple A after three seasons and a minor league utility player. The irony was that Bloom was supposed to be the one acquiring unheralded pitching prospects and developing them, not giving them away.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:13 am

riff raff wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pm

Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...

He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.

Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.

C-H-A-I-M.

His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.

D B A G move by OP

It really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.

Yes they do

Your hypocrisy is showing.

How so?