What did we learn from the 2009 draft?

[Barksdale's People]

In this thread I learned the 2009 draft was before the OP started to pretend to care about hockey.

[STL fan in MN]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

[STL fan in MN]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

On May 29, 2008, the St. Louis Blues announced they had named Armstrong as the club's director of player personnel after signing him to a two-year contract.

Are you saying that he wasn't in the building?

He wasn’t in charge of the team, he had nothing to do with the amateur scouting dept, he wasn’t even brought up on stage. I do not recall if he was on the draft floor that day but this is a pretty clear bad faith argument from you.

And as others have stated, what happened when Army actually became a year later? He traded Rundblad for the 16th overall so they could take Tarasenko. So he quickly evaluated Rundblad wasn’t a player they wanted to continue to invest in and traded him to take a chance on a player that ended up becoming of the our best forwards for a decade.

Fun fact, a year after we traded Rundblad, The Hockey News declared him the best prospect in all of hockey. The Sens were deemed geniuses for “stealing” him from us. How’d that turn out?

[DawgDad]

Hey, checking back in. What I've learned from the 2009 draft, this thread, and a bit of surfing the net is David Rundblad's name is on the Stanley Cup and Connor McDavid's is not. How 'bout THAT, folks?

[kimzey59]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

[General]

Hey, checking back in. What I've learned from the 2009 draft, this thread, and a bit of surfing the net is David Rundblad's name is on the Stanley Cup and Connor McDavid's is not. How 'bout THAT, folks?

Obviously Army’s fault for trading away a Stanley Cup winning player. What a loser. Lol

[STL fan in MN]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

That’s quite the accusation. Jarmo has quite the ego on him and he was clearly miffed he didn’t get the GM job but I doubt he purposely tanked that draft.

And he did stick around for the 2010 draft, which was clearly one of his best. I recall him talking about Tarasenko being a top-5 talent, would’ve gone top-5 if he was born in Canada etc…and he was right.

Here he is with Schwartz and Tarasenko that day.

[kimzey59]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

That’s quite the accusation. Jarmo has quite the ego on him and he was clearly miffed he didn’t get the GM job but I doubt he purposely tanked that draft.

And he did stick around for the 2010 draft, which was clearly one of his best. I recall him talking about Tarasenko being a top-5 talent, would’ve gone top-5 if he was born in Canada etc…and he was right.

Here he is with Schwartz and Tarasenko that day.

He already had the job with Jokerit at that point.

[STL fan in MN]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

That’s quite the accusation. Jarmo has quite the ego on him and he was clearly miffed he didn’t get the GM job but I doubt he purposely tanked that draft.

And he did stick around for the 2010 draft, which was clearly one of his best. I recall him talking about Tarasenko being a top-5 talent, would’ve gone top-5 if he was born in Canada etc…and he was right.

Here he is with Schwartz and Tarasenko that day.

He already had the job with Jokerit at that point.

And yet he stuck around for the 2010 draft, helping us draft 2 cornerstones for our eventual Cup team. Two players oftentimes referred to as Jarmo’s parting gift.

[bluetunehead]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

This is an insane interpretation on your part.

[kimzey59]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

This is an insane interpretation on your part.

Maybe it is.
But I've lost pretty much all respect I had for Jarmo since he's been gone. Arrogant doesn't even begin to describe him.

[sdaltons]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

That’s quite the accusation. Jarmo has quite the ego on him and he was clearly miffed he didn’t get the GM job but I doubt he purposely tanked that draft.

And he did stick around for the 2010 draft, which was clearly one of his best. I recall him talking about Tarasenko being a top-5 talent, would’ve gone top-5 if he was born in Canada etc…and he was right.

Here he is with Schwartz and Tarasenko that day.

I've never seen that pic of Schwartz before. So that proves Pleau was in the building. Just have always thought it was interesting that he isn't in the Tarasenko pic. I think it shows how much Army drove that trade and draft selection.

[BalotelliMassive]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

a hush falls over the arena..

[STL fan in MN]

Army was neither the GM nor the Director of Amateur Scouting in 2009. This would be akin to blaming Steen for a pick you didn’t like in 2025. Nice try.

The only takeaway from the 2009 Draft is that Jarmo Kekalainen was more of a petulant child than we realized.

How so?

Literally every pick we made that year bombed.
And a FAR better prospect was still on the board within 5 spots of our selection in EVERY slot(Kreider and Dumolin being the big two).

That was the only draft in Jarmo's tenure that we didn't get even one legit NHL'er.
Might just be me reading into things(and I'm sure nobodies ever going to admit it or dig into it), but that seems like a deliberate tank as punishment for being passed over for the GM spot. It's telling, to me at least, that he didn't even stick around for the 2010 Draft. He just wanted out as soon as he could contractually get out after Army was named GM in waiting(we were already finalizing our '08 draft board when Army was initially hired).

That’s quite the accusation. Jarmo has quite the ego on him and he was clearly miffed he didn’t get the GM job but I doubt he purposely tanked that draft.

And he did stick around for the 2010 draft, which was clearly one of his best. I recall him talking about Tarasenko being a top-5 talent, would’ve gone top-5 if he was born in Canada etc…and he was right.

Here he is with Schwartz and Tarasenko that day.

I've never seen that pic of Schwartz before. So that proves Pleau was in the building. Just have always thought it was interesting that he isn't in the Tarasenko pic. I think it shows how much Army drove that trade and draft selection.

Yeah, maybe. I viewed it more of a passing of the torch situation. Pleau goes up there for the Schwartz pick, Army 10 minutes later with Tarasenko. I’d imagine that was Pleau’s last time up on the NHL draft podium. Was a nice gesture.

[Nublues69]

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1. Getting 1 Elite Player is what matters.
2. Ranking the rest of the prospects is a waste of time.
3. Army had his hand in this disaster

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