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Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:35 pm
by blackinkbiz
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
Oli explained the reasoning for this in a recent interview, and this is paraphrasing, but it goes something like this, "If you're going to give a young guy the day off, it's best to do it after he's had a great game, so that as he's sitting there on the bench, he's feeling good about his game and what he's accomplished as he replays it in his head. Whereas if you sit a guy after he's had a bad game, negativity gets into his head and he starts beating himself up."
It's not the worst logic I've ever heard, but as we've seen in the last 3.5 years, this approach has horrendous F'n results with most young Cardinals. But that's Oli. He basically thinks he's a baseball genius. In a more recent interview, when asked about Pujols and Molina wanting to coach the Cards, paraphrasing again but his response went something like, "I'm not worried about it. I know what those guys can do and I know what I bring to the table."
Don't think I've ever despised a manager more than I do Oli. Mostly because he's never accomplished a single F'n thing in his MLB career, yet he clearly thinks he's God's gift to managing. And his one chance he had to accomplish something, he pulled an unhittable starting pitcher after 5.1 IP and tried to get 2 innings out of a closer who had just jammed a throwing finger 72 hours before.
Only thing Oli "brings to the table" is perhaps the most rapid decline in MLB history of a once successful franchise.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:37 pm
by Carp4Cy
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:35 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
Oli explained the reasoning for this in a recent interview, and this is paraphrasing, but it goes something like this, "If you're going to give a young guy the day off, it's best to do it after he's had a great game, so that as he's sitting there on the bench, he's feeling good about his game and what he's accomplished as he replays it in his head. Whereas if you sit a guy after he's had a bad game, negativity gets into his head and he starts beating himself up."
It's not the worst logic I've ever heard, but as we've seen in the last 3.5 years, this approach has horrendous (Ef'En) results with most young Cardinals. But that's Oli. He basically thinks he's a baseball genius. In a more recent interview, when asked about Pujols and Molina wanting to coach the Cards, paraphrasing again but his response went something like, "I'm not worried about it. I know what those guys can do and I know what I bring to the table."
Don't think I've ever despised a manager more than I do Oli. Mostly because he's never accomplished a single (Ef'En) thing in his MLB career, yet he clearly thinks he's God's gift to managing. And his one chance he had to accomplish something, he pulled an unhittable starting pitcher after 5.1 IP and tried to get 2 innings out of a closer who had just jammed a throwing finger 72 hours before.
Only thing Oli "brings to the table" is perhaps the most rapid decline in MLB history of a once successful franchise.
“If” you’re gonna give the guy a day off is the problem here.
Why decide to give one to begin with? We just had Saturday with no game at all, and no travel. Full rest.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:39 pm
by Ordinary Man
Charles King wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:35 am
Doubt the games would need to be played for the standing's
Many of us feel that way, but (catching up on some CT threads), I read that Cranny says this team is working hard to get that 3rd Wild Card. He says they haven't given up and we shouldn't either. Frankly I'm pretty much underwhelmed about any team trying to get a 3rd Wild Card. But then I remembered that that is the DeWitt-Moe way.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:39 pm
by rockondlouie
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
in a dome???
No dome Carp
Playing at Steinbrenner Field this season
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:40 pm
by Ordinary Man
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
in a dome???
Come on.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:41 pm
by rockondlouie
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:35 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
Oli explained the reasoning for this in a recent interview, and this is paraphrasing, but it goes something like this, "If you're going to give a young guy the day off, it's best to do it after he's had a great game, so that as he's sitting there on the bench, he's feeling good about his game and what he's accomplished as he replays it in his head. Whereas if you sit a guy after he's had a bad game, negativity gets into his head and he starts beating himself up."
It's not the worst logic I've ever heard, but as we've seen in the last 3.5 years, this approach has horrendous (Ef'En) results with most young Cardinals. But that's Oli. He basically thinks he's a baseball genius. In a more recent interview, when asked about Pujols and Molina wanting to coach the Cards, paraphrasing again but his response went something like, "I'm not worried about it. I know what those guys can do and I know what I bring to the table."
Don't think I've ever despised a manager more than I do Oli. Mostly because he's never accomplished a single (Ef'En) thing in his MLB career, yet he clearly thinks he's God's gift to managing. And his one chance he had to accomplish something, he pulled an unhittable starting pitcher after 5.1 IP and tried to get 2 innings out of a closer who had just jammed a throwing finger 72 hours before.
Only thing Oli "brings to the table" is perhaps the most rapid decline in MLB history of a once successful franchise.
Add this to the huge number of reasons the moron has to be fired at seasons end.
Oli the Cooler
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:41 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
what's left of a dome lol
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:49 pm
by Carp4Cy
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:39 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
in a dome???
No dome Carp
Playing at Steinbrenner Field this season
What’s is wrong with baseballs contractors? We moved from Busch 2 to 3 without missing a single home game. But the As are playing in Sacramento because it takes 5 years to build a stadium in Vegas? And now this?
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:51 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:49 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:39 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
in a dome???
No dome Carp
Playing at Steinbrenner Field this season
What’s is wrong with baseballs contractors? We moved from Busch 2 to 3 without missing a single home game. But the As are playing in Sacramento because it takes 5 years to build a stadium in Vegas? And now this?
so, Busch3 wasn't being built ahead of time?
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:51 pm
by Melville
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:35 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
Oli explained the reasoning for this in a recent interview, and this is paraphrasing, but it goes something like this, "If you're going to give a young guy the day off, it's best to do it after he's had a great game, so that as he's sitting there on the bench, he's feeling good about his game and what he's accomplished as he replays it in his head. Whereas if you sit a guy after he's had a bad game, negativity gets into his head and he starts beating himself up."
It's not the worst logic I've ever heard, but as we've seen in the last 3.5 years, this approach has horrendous (Ef'En) results with most young Cardinals. But that's Oli. He basically thinks he's a baseball genius. In a more recent interview, when asked about Pujols and Molina wanting to coach the Cards, paraphrasing again but his response went something like, "I'm not worried about it. I know what those guys can do and I know what I bring to the table."
Don't think I've ever despised a manager more than I do Oli. Mostly because he's never accomplished a single (Ef'En) thing in his MLB career, yet he clearly thinks he's God's gift to managing. And his one chance he had to accomplish something, he pulled an unhittable starting pitcher after 5.1 IP and tried to get 2 innings out of a closer who had just jammed a throwing finger 72 hours before.
Only thing Oli "brings to the table" is perhaps the most rapid decline in MLB history of a once successful franchise.
Punish success.
Reward struggles.
Oh my.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:54 pm
by Melville
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:41 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:35 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
Oli explained the reasoning for this in a recent interview, and this is paraphrasing, but it goes something like this, "If you're going to give a young guy the day off, it's best to do it after he's had a great game, so that as he's sitting there on the bench, he's feeling good about his game and what he's accomplished as he replays it in his head. Whereas if you sit a guy after he's had a bad game, negativity gets into his head and he starts beating himself up."
It's not the worst logic I've ever heard, but as we've seen in the last 3.5 years, this approach has horrendous (Ef'En) results with most young Cardinals. But that's Oli. He basically thinks he's a baseball genius. In a more recent interview, when asked about Pujols and Molina wanting to coach the Cards, paraphrasing again but his response went something like, "I'm not worried about it. I know what those guys can do and I know what I bring to the table."
Don't think I've ever despised a manager more than I do Oli. Mostly because he's never accomplished a single (Ef'En) thing in his MLB career, yet he clearly thinks he's God's gift to managing. And his one chance he had to accomplish something, he pulled an unhittable starting pitcher after 5.1 IP and tried to get 2 innings out of a closer who had just jammed a throwing finger 72 hours before.
Only thing Oli "brings to the table" is perhaps the most rapid decline in MLB history of a once successful franchise.
Add this to the huge number of reasons the moron has to be fired at seasons end.
Oli the Cooler
Haven't you heard the old sports idiom "ride the cold hand'......
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:55 pm
by 82birds
Rays announcer said game MAY start about 3pm CT
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 12:59 pm
by Clubmaker2
the second someone finally fits the least bit of appropriate rhythm , stop immediately, don't keep doing it a little more to try to ingrain it....
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 13:03 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 11:46 am
Oli has a habit of sitting a young player the game after they seem to get something going.
He’s done it with Walker and Gorman a few times.
Now it’s Church’s turn.
The Cooler strikes again.
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 13:08 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
well, his minor league splits aren't awful, but he's MUCH better vs rhp
Re: GDT: Cards at Rays 8-24 11:30??
Posted: 24 Aug 2025 13:19 pm
by Carp4Cy
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:51 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:49 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:39 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:32 pm
in a dome???
No dome Carp
Playing at Steinbrenner Field this season
What’s is wrong with baseballs contractors? We moved from Busch 2 to 3 without missing a single home game. But the As are playing in Sacramento because it takes 5 years to build a stadium in Vegas? And now this?
so, Busch3 wasn't being built ahead of time?
only half of it. And the whole thing certainly didn't take nearly as long. Stuff just takes way too long today - automation and technology isn't moving build times in the right direction.
Look at train tracks in the 1880s vs today. Gov Polis announced plans to connect Ft Collins to Pueblo with passenger rail 20 years in the future. For 150 miles. Then entire Western Pacific line was built in 6 years. By hand.