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Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 05:26 am
by 2ninr
Reminds me of Paul DeJong. VERY bright people. Head case.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 06:56 am
by scoutyjones2
RamFan08NY wrote: 20 Aug 2025 21:30 pm I have often heard from watching the games, what a hard worker JW is. I really find it hard to believe that he either cant be coached, or won't be coached.

With his hand speed, and the raw power that he hits the ball, there is no reason why he shouldn't be a very successful major leaguer. Just mind boggling.
Batting eye. Swing profile. Pitch recognition. Straight from High School..

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 07:49 am
by The Nard
Lloyd Braun wrote: 20 Aug 2025 21:57 pm It is getting a bit ridiculous


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Let’s see: upright stance, as far from the plate as you can get. Can he even reach the strike zone? Looks like the anti-Pujols (who had one of baseball’s best, balanced stances I’ve ever seen).

Is this an old picture, or from this year (I can’t get cardinals games - am blacked out 400 miles away).

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 08:51 am
by The Nard
:? Ok I get it now. Took a while

But his stance is still weird.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 08:53 am
by Lloyd Braun
blackinkbiz wrote: 20 Aug 2025 22:28 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 20 Aug 2025 21:57 pm It is getting a bit ridiculous


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Hah, next time spend more than 30 seconds doing your crop, but yeah the kid is clearly not getting any better under the current plan, whatever that may be.
I think it took 45 seconds

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 08:56 am
by rockondlouie
C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to J. Walker (or N. Gorman or A. Pallante or ect....), he's Mo's project.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bloom cut the cord mid season 2026 if Walker is still struggling.

Too much time has been wasted the last few seasons on "projects".

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 21 Aug 2025 09:01 am
by 3dender
bfib wrote: 21 Aug 2025 00:34 am
Braund241 wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:56 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:52 pm No more sugarcoating it.

He doesn’t deserve to be on a MLB field right now
How many of these unbelievable talents could you say that about. At least 24.
This is a true blunder though. This wasn’t just the Cardinals hyping him. This was the #1 prospect in all of baseball at one point.

Something has went VERY wrong here
Jurickson Profar was also a #1... rankings miss a fair amount of the time.

I want Walker to succeed, and I sincerely believe the best way for him to succeed is to start next year as an everyday player at AAA.

The only scenario where I think he should make the MLB team next spring is if he both 1) has an other-worldly ST performance and 2) via trade and injury it is assured that he will start every day at the MLB level.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 22 Aug 2025 08:56 am
by Melville
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 09:01 am
bfib wrote: 21 Aug 2025 00:34 am
Braund241 wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:56 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:52 pm No more sugarcoating it.

He doesn’t deserve to be on a MLB field right now
How many of these unbelievable talents could you say that about. At least 24.
This is a true blunder though. This wasn’t just the Cardinals hyping him. This was the #1 prospect in all of baseball at one point.

Something has went VERY wrong here
Jurickson Profar was also a #1... rankings miss a fair amount of the time.

I want Walker to succeed, and I sincerely believe the best way for him to succeed is to start next year as an everyday player at AAA.

The only scenario where I think he should make the MLB team next spring is if he both 1) has an other-worldly ST performance and 2) via trade and injury it is assured that he will start every day at the MLB level.
3 quick points concerning Walker - some of which others have shared.
One, as you point out above, he needs playing time.
294 PA's this year and 178 last year with an undefined role is counterproductive,
He needs to play daily - somewhere.
Two, he has made a little progress recently in staying off of breaking pitches away which is a small positive - but he isn't doing much with the pitches he does offer at.
Three - and in my opinion the biggest issue - he is a complete guess hitter with limited pitch recognition and no ability to adjust.
If he sees the pitch he is expecting in the location he is expecting - he hits it hard.
But he takes far too many hittable pitches because he is so often fooled - or makes weak contact with a late swing.
I am not convinced that can be fixed.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 22 Aug 2025 09:41 am
by scoutyjones2
2ninr wrote: 21 Aug 2025 05:26 am Reminds me of Paul DeJong. VERY bright people. Head case.
You and I have no idea he's bright. :roll:

He should start next year in AA and be forced to prove himself, to make the team.

I have little faith.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 22 Aug 2025 12:05 pm
by 2ninr
scoutyjones2 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 09:41 am
2ninr wrote: 21 Aug 2025 05:26 am Reminds me of Paul DeJong. VERY bright people. Head case.
You and I have no idea he's bright. :roll:

He should start next year in AA and be forced to prove himself, to make the team.

I have little faith.
He's book smart Poindexter bright. So was DeJong. It isn't the same as street smart.

Re: Here’s an idea Jordan Walker

Posted: 22 Aug 2025 12:31 pm
by scoutyjones2
2ninr wrote: 22 Aug 2025 12:05 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 09:41 am
2ninr wrote: 21 Aug 2025 05:26 am Reminds me of Paul DeJong. VERY bright people. Head case.
You and I have no idea he's bright. :roll:

He should start next year in AA and be forced to prove himself, to make the team.

I have little faith.
He's book smart Poindexter bright. So was DeJong. It isn't the same as street smart.
How do you know he's booksmart? :roll: :lol:

Most mouth breathers I know aren't... 8O