GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT

[jcgmoi]

I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's.

Thanks for what you do. I like seeing lineups and pitchers well before the game and you always took care of business. Even though I haven't posted often to your game-threads, I dip into the first couple of pages sometimes, or the last couple of a night game I wasn't able to follow, to get info about the game, and I'll miss the chance to do that. I'll miss your knowledge of MiLB too. Thanks again.

[Ozziesfan41]

Just some future Heads Up

I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.

Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.

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And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.

I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.

Forever a Cards Fan,

Craviduce

Thanks for all you’ve done you’re contributions have been greatly appreciated by many enjoy yourself

[hotrivets]

Thanks Crav. I keep hoping someone else will do the Blues but then I end up doing it. Enjoy your time and your travels.

[blackinkbiz]

CT refuses to see selling Hurdy Gurdy. Still believes in Just Worthless and the KKorn...well, truly only one (bleep) that says, it's never about him, believes there's nothing like him

I have 0 faith in Walker or Gorman. Still pulling for them but I think I've seen enough. Granted, they could still figure out as both are young, but they're not getting any better whatsoever.

I blame Walker on the FO though. The kid could hit a fastball 2 years ago. But now...

[Detroit Louie]

Just some future Heads Up

I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.

Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.

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And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.

I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.

Forever a Cards Fan,

Craviduce

MVP (Most Valuable Poster) in my book! Thanks for all you do.

[scoutyjones2]

CT refuses to see selling Hurdy Gurdy. Still believes in Just Worthless and the KKorn...well, truly only one (bleep) that says, it's never about him, believes there's nothing like him

I have 0 faith in Walker or Gorman. Still pulling for them but I think I've seen enough. Granted, they could still figure out as both are young, but they're not getting any better whatsoever.

I blame Walker on the FO though. The kid could hit a fastball 2 years ago. But now...

He doesn't grow and evolve... That's on him. FO did nothing to the worm burner hitting linebacker

[stlbirdlover]

I stopped watching I just check the scores and read the box score! These A-holes won't score any runs against Fried tonight! Donny and Willson both out these guys are a bunch of wimps today.

[moose-and-squirrel]

I stopped watching I just check the scores and read the box score! These A-holes won't score any runs against Fried tonight! Donny and Willson both out these guys are a bunch of wimps today.

lately, ironically, it's the 'weak' lineups that have produced wins

hard team to figure out

[imetsatchelpaige]

Yeoman's service, Duce.
On behalf of everyone: thanks for the dedication, superb GDT's, the ability to suffer fools and your great research and insight.
Don't be a stranger, brother.
Always a place at the table for you.

[scoutyjones2]

Just some future Heads Up

I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.

Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.

----------

And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.

I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.

Forever a Cards Fan,

Craviduce

You're the best Duce! Thanks for the treads, enjoy the travels and be safe. SR would be proud

[RamFan08NY]

Wow. This reminds me to back in the days when Curt Ford was put into the cleanup slot because.......who else?

[cardstatman]

IMHO...

Winn is the SS of the near future. We should build around him.

I don't know that Wetherholt's defense at SS is what makes him special, it is just nice that he could stick at SS because of his bat.

Donovan is playing 2B because Arenado is a fixture at 3B. If Arenado goes, then Donovan could go back to 3B.
It is great that Donovan is flexible. He seems to work hard on his agility. However, he's better at 3B than 2B.
Currently playing Gorman at 3B and Donovan at 2B is backward but maybe Oli just doesn't want to rock the boat yet with Arenado returning soon. We aren't trying to win anyway this year.

I'm pretty sure Wetherholt has 74 games at SS, 19 games at 2B, and only 4 games at 3B so far. So he has barely tried 3B.
The sample size is tiny but the early stats say he's been good at 2B... I see him better there than Donovan.

Arenado has not been blocking anyone, but when Wetherholt is ready for MLB, then he will be blocking someone significant ... unless we move Donovan somewhere else... and we can... but I like Donovan at 3B better.

Second baseman rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
5.18 025 5.18 025 0.00 000 Winn SS
4.67 019 4.67 019 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS
4.55 372 4.62 123 4.51 249 Gorman 2B
4.30 324 4.08 130 4.45 194 Donovan 2B
4.29 241 4.30 225 4.13 016 Fermin 2B
4.23 217 4.17 192 4.70 025 Saggese 2B
4.14 156 4.14 156 0.00 000 Prieto 3B

Shortstop rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
4.97 022 4.60 010 5.18 012 Donovan 2B (SSS fluke?)
4.20 147 4.24 138 3.60 009 Saggese 2B
4.10 560 4.12 273 4.09 287 Winn SS
3.78 074 3.78 074 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS
3.77 152 3.77 152 0.00 000 Fermin 2B
3.55 075 3.55 075 0.00 000 Prieto 3B

Third baseman rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
3.03 069 2.37 040 3.94 029 Donovan 2B
2.96 2204 2.91 412 2.97 1792 Arenado 3B
2.76 218 2.85 186 2.21 032 Gorman 2B --- I have a theory that the speed of the MLB game makes it tough on Gorman at 3B.
2.38 126 2.39 113 2.30 013 Saggese 2B
2.36 139 2.31 126 2.48 013 Fermin 2B
2.34 195 2.34 195 0.00 000 Prieto 3B
2.21 000 2.21 004 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS

I'm liking the defense of Wetherholt 2B, Winn SS, Arenado 3B. Donovan goes to UT.
I'm liking the defense of Wetherholt 2B, Winn SS, Donovan 3B. Arenado goes elsewhere.

If Arenado stays (he does have a NTC), then we could trade Donovan or Nootbar or Burleson and let the other 2 play LF/RF.
We control Arenado, Donovan, and Nootbar for 2 more years each after this season. We control Burleson for 3 more years.

The other option is to keep them all and use Donovan at DH/1B/2B/3B/LF/RF to give everyone 1 day off every 7 games. I like that (injuries happen and off days are good) but I'd still trade high on Burleson and sign another corner OF with power and better speed. I admire that Burleson seems to be working to get better but I just hate bad defense. The Cardinals pitching staff is 6th in FIP but 20th in ERA! Defense, defense, defense. It matters.

Gorman (392 games) needs to go to another team and Walker (247 games) needs to spend 2026 in AAA. We have seen quite a lot of them both. Saggese is utility depth. He should learn OF to add that to his UT value.

[Mort Gage]

Since Slackerduce has gotten a head start on his slacking here's the Yankee lineup.

[RamFan08NY]

CT refuses to see selling Hurdy Gurdy. Still believes in Just Worthless and the KKorn...well, truly only one (bleep) that says, it's never about him, believes there's nothing like him

I have 0 faith in Walker or Gorman. Still pulling for them but I think I've seen enough. Granted, they could still figure out as both are young, but they're not getting any better whatsoever.

I blame Walker on the FO though. The kid could hit a fastball 2 years ago. But now...

Its odd. Actually seems that a professional hitter could fix him. He was successful before, before teams figured out that he cant reach the outter half of the plate.

Watching him hit is painful because you can see all of the holes in his approach.

Yadi has seen and studied hundreds, and hundreds of hitters over his career. He also improved himself into an efficient hitter. I cannot believe that, if taken on the task, Yadi could not fix him.

[scoutyjones2]

IMHO...

Winn is the SS of the near future. We should build around him.

I don't know that Wetherholt's defense at SS is what makes him special, it is just nice that he could stick at SS because of his bat.

Donovan is playing 2B because Arenado is a fixture at 3B. If Arenado goes, then Donovan could go back to 3B.
It is great that Donovan is flexible. He seems to work hard on his agility. However, he's better at 3B than 2B.
Currently playing Gorman at 3B and Donovan at 2B is backward but maybe Oli just doesn't want to rock the boat yet with Arenado returning soon. We aren't trying to win anyway this year.

I'm pretty sure Wetherholt has 74 games at SS, 19 games at 2B, and only 4 games at 3B so far. So he has barely tried 3B.
The sample size is tiny but the early stats say he's been good at 2B... I see him better there than Donovan.

Arenado has not been blocking anyone, but when Wetherholt is ready for MLB, then he will be blocking someone significant ... unless we move Donovan somewhere else... and we can... but I like Donovan at 3B better.

Second baseman rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
5.18 025 5.18 025 0.00 000 Winn SS
4.67 019 4.67 019 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS
4.55 372 4.62 123 4.51 249 Gorman 2B
4.30 324 4.08 130 4.45 194 Donovan 2B
4.29 241 4.30 225 4.13 016 Fermin 2B
4.23 217 4.17 192 4.70 025 Saggese 2B
4.14 156 4.14 156 0.00 000 Prieto 3B

Shortstop rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
4.97 022 4.60 010 5.18 012 Donovan 2B (SSS fluke?)
4.20 147 4.24 138 3.60 009 Saggese 2B
4.10 560 4.12 273 4.09 287 Winn SS
3.78 074 3.78 074 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS
3.77 152 3.77 152 0.00 000 Fermin 2B
3.55 075 3.55 075 0.00 000 Prieto 3B

Third baseman rankings by RF/9 (Total = milB + MLB)
Total RF/9 G miLB RF/9 G . MLB RF/9 G Player
3.03 069 2.37 040 3.94 029 Donovan 2B
2.96 2204 2.91 412 2.97 1792 Arenado 3B
2.76 218 2.85 186 2.21 032 Gorman 2B --- I have a theory that the speed of the MLB game makes it tough on Gorman at 3B.
2.38 126 2.39 113 2.30 013 Saggese 2B
2.36 139 2.31 126 2.48 013 Fermin 2B
2.34 195 2.34 195 0.00 000 Prieto 3B
2.21 000 2.21 004 0.00 000 Wetherholt SS

I'm liking the defense of Wetherholt 2B, Winn SS, Arenado 3B. Donovan goes to UT.
I'm liking the defense of Wetherholt 2B, Winn SS, Donovan 3B. Arenado goes elsewhere.

If Arenado stays (he does have a NTC), then we could trade Donovan or Nootbar or Burleson and let the other 2 play LF/RF.
We control Arenado, Donovan, and Nootbar for 2 more years each after this season. We control Burleson for 3 more years.

The other option is to keep them all and use Donovan at DH/1B/2B/3B/LF/RF to give everyone 1 day off every 7 games. I like that (injuries happen and off days are good) but I'd still trade high on Burleson and sign another corner OF with power and better speed. I admire that Burleson seems to be working to get better but I just hate bad defense. The Cardinals pitching staff is 6th in FIP but 20th in ERA! Defense, defense, defense. It matters.

Gorman (392 games) needs to go to another team and Walker (247 games) needs to spend 2026 in AAA. We have seen quite a lot of them both. Saggese is utility depth. He should learn OF to add that to his UT value.

Hurdy Gurdy can't stay healthy and UniKKKorn has a chronic back. Winns bat is weak.

JJ is the man you build around, the rest are just meh

[82birds]

Yeoman's service, Duce.
On behalf of everyone: thanks for the dedication, superb GDT's, the ability to suffer fools and your great research and insight.
Don't be a stranger, brother.
Always a place at the table for you.

undoubtedly for sure 100%