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moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:03 pm The system has LHP assuming health and development.

Doyle
Mathews
Mautz
Henderson
Hansen

Best RHPs in the system?

Roby after surgery recovery
Hence after surgery recovery
Davis
Dutkanych IV
Robberse after surgery recovery?
...?

Davis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?

Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.

What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.

Roby isn't back until 2027.

There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.


We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP

He's down working on strengthening his shoulder.

I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

Hence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.

Nolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.

good post.. great examples

what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:03 pm The system has LHP assuming health and development.

Doyle
Mathews
Mautz
Henderson
Hansen

Best RHPs in the system?

Roby after surgery recovery
Hence after surgery recovery
Davis
Dutkanych IV
Robberse after surgery recovery?
...?

Davis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?

Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.

What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.

Roby isn't back until 2027.

There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.


We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP

He's down working on strengthening his shoulder.

I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

Hence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.

Nolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:54 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:03 pm The system has LHP assuming health and development.

Doyle
Mathews
Mautz
Henderson
Hansen

Best RHPs in the system?

Roby after surgery recovery
Hence after surgery recovery
Davis
Dutkanych IV
Robberse after surgery recovery?
...?

Davis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?

Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.

What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.

Roby isn't back until 2027.

There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.


We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP

He's down working on strengthening his shoulder.

I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

Hence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.

Nolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.

good post.. great examples

what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?

i may be thinking of another pitcher but i am pretty sure Pedro started life as a flame thrower who evolved into more of a pitcher after some arm issues. i seem to remember him being so small in the minors that they fined him if they saw him working out or even jogging as they tried to put weight on him. Younger brother of Ramon Martinez.

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:55 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:03 pm The system has LHP assuming health and development.

Doyle
Mathews
Mautz
Henderson
Hansen

Best RHPs in the system?

Roby after surgery recovery
Hence after surgery recovery
Davis
Dutkanych IV
Robberse after surgery recovery?
...?

Davis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?

Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.

What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.

Roby isn't back until 2027.

There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.


We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP

He's down working on strengthening his shoulder.

I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

Hence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.

Nolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.

Yes he was a freak. But, he worked prodigiously with the weights to retain that power well into his late 40's. It didn't just come natural. He worked!

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:56 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:54 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:03 pm The system has LHP assuming health and development.

Doyle
Mathews
Mautz
Henderson
Hansen

Best RHPs in the system?

Roby after surgery recovery
Hence after surgery recovery
Davis
Dutkanych IV
Robberse after surgery recovery?
...?

Davis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?

Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.

What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.

Roby isn't back until 2027.

There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.


We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP

He's down working on strengthening his shoulder.

I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

Hence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.

Nolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.

good post.. great examples

what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?

i may be thinking of another pitcher but i am pretty sure Pedro started life as a flame thrower who evolved into more of a pitcher after some arm issues. i seem to remember him being so small in the minors that they fined him if they saw him working out or even jogging as they tried to put weight on him. Younger brother of Ramon Martinez.

think you might be right, and I'm just remembering the latter part of his career?

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