i may be thinking of another pitcher but i am pretty sure Pedro started life as a flame thrower who evolved into more of a pitcher after some arm issues. i seem to remember him being so small in the minors that they fined him if they saw him working out or even jogging as they tried to put weight on him. Younger brother of Ramon Martinez.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pmgood post.. great examplesgreyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pmNolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pmHence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pmHe's down working on strengthening his shoulder.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmDavis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?
Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.
What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.
Roby isn't back until 2027.
There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.
We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP
I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately
what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?
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Yes he was a freak. But, he worked prodigiously with the weights to retain that power well into his late 40's. It didn't just come natural. He worked!greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pmNolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pmHence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pmHe's down working on strengthening his shoulder.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmDavis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?
Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.
What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.
Roby isn't back until 2027.
There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.
We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP
I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately
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think you might be right, and I'm just remembering the latter part of his career?greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:54 pmi may be thinking of another pitcher but i am pretty sure Pedro started life as a flame thrower who evolved into more of a pitcher after some arm issues. i seem to remember him being so small in the minors that they fined him if they saw him working out or even jogging as they tried to put weight on him. Younger brother of Ramon Martinez.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pmgood post.. great examplesgreyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pmNolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pmHence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pmHe's down working on strengthening his shoulder.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmDavis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?
Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.
What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.
Roby isn't back until 2027.
There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.
We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP
I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately
what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?
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i wasn't trying to imply he didnt work hard --- but you can't turn yourself into that size of a beast without some genetic help and he had plentyhugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:55 pmYes he was a freak. But, he worked prodigiously with the weights to retain that power well into his late 40's. It didn't just come natural. He worked!greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pmNolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pmHence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pmHe's down working on strengthening his shoulder.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmDavis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?
Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.
What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.
Roby isn't back until 2027.
There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.
We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP
I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately

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Lasorda had the dodgers trade him to the expos for DeShields i believe because he told everyone Pedro was too small and would never make it...oops --- he got to the expos and they let him start and it all happened from there.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:56 pmthink you might be right, and I'm just remembering the latter part of his career?greyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:54 pmi may be thinking of another pitcher but i am pretty sure Pedro started life as a flame thrower who evolved into more of a pitcher after some arm issues. i seem to remember him being so small in the minors that they fined him if they saw him working out or even jogging as they tried to put weight on him. Younger brother of Ramon Martinez.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:44 pmgood post.. great examplesgreyhawk wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:42 pmNolan was a freak of nature --- closest physically to him i have seen would be Matt Holiday. Large men with enormous foundations built around leg strength --- only the good lord also reached down and touched Nolan's right arm. Hence needs to study how Pedro Martinez was able to have such a great career with a similar type frame.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 15:30 pmHence needs to study how Nolan Ryan worked out all year long.RunSup wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:18 pmHe's down working on strengthening his shoulder.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmDavis is LHP. You may be thinking Brandt Thomspon?
Rincon is injured, Chen-Wei Lin is trying to come back from injury.
What surgery did Hence have? I missed it if he did.
Roby isn't back until 2027.
There's also Winquest, Rajcic and Bedell. None of them knock the knees...so to speak.
We're left with Praying that Tanner Franklin and the likes of Cade Crossland become the next Michael Jordans of RHP
I thought I saw that Hence had TJ surgery but misread that.
I just assumed Davis was RHP. They've liked their LHP prospects lately
what prolly helped Pedro was being a change up pitcher, iirc. isn't Hence more of a FB guy?
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JJ pop to left
Fermin walk then CS
Church 4 pitch walk
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Fermin walk then CS
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JJ walk
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Antico walk
JJ walk
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Dude in the dugout for Charlotte got blasted in the jaw by a foul ball. Next pitch batter hits a home run
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Great jump by Church, steals second
Crooks full count.. draws the walk
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Great jump by Church, steals second
Crooks full count.. draws the walk
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Prieto double play..
5-3, 1 out in the 3rd
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