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The board says no. Great effort on extraordinary plays should not go punished. Hit.

Melville wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:53 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:32 pm Official scoring is a joke

I booed at last nights game when they failed to give Winn an obvious error on that play.

STL is trying very, very hard to have Winn set or tie the record for fewest errors - and win the Gold Glove.
All about the marketing.
Never about the game.
Toxic culture.

I get it, they're desperate for a player to market.

But as hard as they try Winn is never going to be a star.

Just a great glove and an average hitter.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 13:54 pm The board says no. Great effort on extraordinary plays should not go punished. Hit.

The only "hit" was the ball striking Winn.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:30 pm Don't and never have agreed with the saying. Most on this board couldn't field a dribbler much less a rocket. Balls take bad hops also. As LaRussa used to say, "They're men not machines." The mental errors are the worst to me. Even Ozzie missed one every once in a while.

But you’re well aware of the saying. Do you think it factored more into scoring yesterday or in today’s game.

I do think the scoring is more lenient now days. But I think part of that is that they've come to realize that balls are being hit harder and fielding is not easy. Plus, I think players don't devote as much time to defense as they used to. I remember some old ball player saying that they used to be on the field playing pepper before games and you hardly ever see that anymore.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 11:58 am Good morning.

Remember that saying. Used to be kind of a scoring rule. Now I don’t think it applies in the same manner.

Is there debate- get your glove on a batted ball, it’s an error.

And, anyone remember this unofficial saying.

For fun.

Do you give Scott an error on Judge's homer?

WLTFE wrote: ↑17 Aug 2025 07:33 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 11:58 am Good morning.

Remember that saying. Used to be kind of a scoring rule. Now I don’t think it applies in the same manner.

Is there debate- get your glove on a batted ball, it’s an error.

And, anyone remember this unofficial saying.

For fun.

Do you give Scott an error on Judge's homer?

No. Great effort. Did it hit his glove even? Looked like it missed. Either way no error.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:32 pm Official scoring is a joke

I booed at last nights game when they failed to give Winn an obvious error on that play.

last night's ruling may help his Gold Glove chances but it was an error all the way

Last night mid game. Bases loaded no out. Shot to Saggese left, glove hand side. Made huge contact with ball, doesn’t field it , trickles into right field, so shallow that he, Saggese goes and gets it. Two runs score.

Field that ball, double play, force at second, or put out at first. Different inning, new game. That in addition to his ninth inning.

Fluke. Maybe. But two straight games where a fieldable ball was molested but gets thru, leading to a big inning.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 11:58 am Good morning.

Remember that saying. Used to be kind of a scoring rule. Now I don’t think it applies in the same manner.

Is there debate- get your glove on a batted ball, it’s an error.

And, anyone remember this unofficial saying.

For fun.

I wouldn't know.
Everything I touched, I caught.
Don't recall ever missing one.
Although I did make some throwing errors, with a few of my offerings being over the head, thereby escaping the grasp of the intended recipient.
All kidding(?) aside, your point is correct.
Scoring has changed and hits are now regularly and undeservingly gifted.

The game is becoming a joke. I guess they figure BA are so low they need all the help they can get…..

No, it is not.