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Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 08:06 am
by rightthinker4
RamFan08NY wrote: 15 Aug 2025 06:17 am
Janssen wrote: 12 Aug 2025 20:49 pm What would a package look like from us? Would have to include JJ
Would certainly include JJ. Very expensive package for a 2 year rental.
Right. The Cardinals would lose him in free agency.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 08:33 am
by WaltsSuccessor
RamFan08NY wrote: 15 Aug 2025 06:17 am
Janssen wrote: 12 Aug 2025 20:49 pm What would a package look like from us? Would have to include JJ
Would certainly include JJ. Very expensive package for a 2 year rental.
Skenes is controlled through the 2029 season. So 4 years. Guy was a rookie last year so no idea where you got the 2 year rental nonsense.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 08:45 am
by KeeptheRamsinSTL
Janssen wrote: 12 Aug 2025 20:49 pm What would a package look like from us? Would have to include JJ
More than the Cardinals can afford to give up.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 08:49 am
by rockondlouie
The Dodgers already have his jersey printed up when the Pirates trade him in a couple years.

The Cardinals, who are OFFENSIVELY challenged, can't afford to trade JJW for pitching.

And who in their right mind thinks BDWJr would pony up $500+M to keep Skenes?

ZERO chance

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 09:04 am
by Rojo Johnson
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Aug 2025 08:49 am The Dodgers already have his jersey printed up when the Pirates trade him in a couple years.

The Cardinals, who are OFFENSIVELY challenged, can't afford to trade JJW for pitching.

And who in their right mind thinks BDWJr would pony up $500+M to keep Skenes?

ZERO chance
It amazes me how many ridiculous scenarios people come up with when they have to know Bill is in his ”I can and will take it with me” mode. Right now he is bargaining with Ol’ Scratch on the terms of the deal. Keep it up, folks. It is a source of amusement for people who are paying attention. Bill trades for Skenes? Ha, ha. A very likely scenario given all the salary Bill’s trying to get rid of.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 09:12 am
by rockondlouie
Rojo Johnson wrote: 15 Aug 2025 09:04 am
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Aug 2025 08:49 am The Dodgers already have his jersey printed up when the Pirates trade him in a couple years.

The Cardinals, who are OFFENSIVELY challenged, can't afford to trade JJW for pitching.

And who in their right mind thinks BDWJr would pony up $500+M to keep Skenes?

ZERO chance
It amazes me how many ridiculous scenarios people come up with when they have to know Bill is in his ”I can and will take it with me” mode. Right now he is bargaining with Ol’ Scratch on the terms of the deal. Keep it up, folks. It is a source of amusement for people who are paying attention. Bill trades for Skenes? Ha, ha. A very likely scenario given all the salary Bill’s trying to get rid of.
Amen RoJo

Cracks me up when I also see the "Sign K. Tucker" threads too. ::crazya::

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 15 Aug 2025 09:28 am
by RamFan08NY
WaltsSuccessor wrote: 15 Aug 2025 08:33 am
RamFan08NY wrote: 15 Aug 2025 06:17 am
Janssen wrote: 12 Aug 2025 20:49 pm What would a package look like from us? Would have to include JJ
Would certainly include JJ. Very expensive package for a 2 year rental.
Skenes is controlled through the 2029 season. So 4 years. Guy was a rookie last year so no idea where you got the 2 year rental nonsense.
Let's see if he will be satisfied on his rookie deal until 2029. He'll either get a huge deal or demand a trade. No way that the best pitcher in the game remains on rookie deal for 3 more years.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 19 Aug 2025 10:23 am
by WaltsSuccessor
RamFan08NY wrote: 15 Aug 2025 09:28 am
WaltsSuccessor wrote: 15 Aug 2025 08:33 am
RamFan08NY wrote: 15 Aug 2025 06:17 am
Janssen wrote: 12 Aug 2025 20:49 pm What would a package look like from us? Would have to include JJ
Would certainly include JJ. Very expensive package for a 2 year rental.
Skenes is controlled through the 2029 season. So 4 years. Guy was a rookie last year so no idea where you got the 2 year rental nonsense.
Let's see if he will be satisfied on his rookie deal until 2029. He'll either get a huge deal or demand a trade. No way that the best pitcher in the game remains on rookie deal for 3 more years.
This isn't the NFL. There is no such thing as a rookie deal in MLB. He'll be eligible for arbitration after next season which I'm sure he'll start breaking arbitration records each year through 2029.

Juan Soto got $31m last year in his final year of arbitration. It's not as if Skenes won't get paid until 2030.

Re: Scenes frustrations grow!

Posted: 19 Aug 2025 10:44 am
by ScotchMIrish
I was frustrated after Gussie traded Carlton and Reuss and I'm sure Cardinals HOF players Brock and Gibson felt the same way.

Pirates aren't going to trade Skenes just because he is frustrated. If there were going to trade him I don't think the Cardinals have enough to get him.