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Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:30 am

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:27 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.

Exciting win, though!

Can you think of a good reason to have no one up …..Miles pitching with a one run lead in 7th?
I don’t really post about single games…..its the mindset and strategy throughout the season that make or break a team.
Over and over he comes up short….sure Donny came up and pulled out the win late against a 30 win team…… not really the point though

That's because Oli is not an MLB caliber manager. Not even close.

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.

Weird, Oli has a winning record as Cards manager.

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:13 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:02 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:59 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:53 am

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:51 am I’m not astute enough to be critical of a manager’s moves. I just enjoyed the come from behind win.

So you’re saying you’re not very baseball smart?

About some things, but not about some iof the strategic moves by a manager. Just never took a great interest in that. Different strokes.

You don’t have the capacity to understand having a BP active in the 7th inning of a 1run game with Miles pitching??

Just enjoyed the come from behind win, Goldfan.
Did you?

Of course not. I'm sure he's monday morning quarterbacking. Doubt he posted anything about this in the game thread

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.

Weird, Oli has a winning record as Cards manager.

You can ride that .508 winning % straight to HOF……just imagine if he actually has some baseball intuition, he’d be dangerous.
Didn’t you love it when he sat there and watched Helsley give the PS away when RH was obviously toast??
Hight expectations you have Scouty…..HIGH

Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:13 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:02 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:59 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:53 am

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 11:51 am I’m not astute enough to be critical of a manager’s moves. I just enjoyed the come from behind win.

So you’re saying you’re not very baseball smart?

About some things, but not about some iof the strategic moves by a manager. Just never took a great interest in that. Different strokes.

You don’t have the capacity to understand having a BP active in the 7th inning of a 1run game with Miles pitching??

Just enjoyed the come from behind win, Goldfan.
Did you?

Of course not. I'm sure he's monday morning quarterbacking. Doubt he posted anything about this in the game thread

Of course he didn’t

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:29 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:03 am Miles 7th inning……thin 1run lead…..Nobody up in pen…..waits until lead lost to remove Miles
Miles always has an expiration inning where he blows up quickly…..I don’t care if he’s throwing a no-hitter against Rocks…..7th inning you have to have someone warming up.
Oli is not smart and not a winning manager.

Weird, Oli has a winning record as Cards manager.

You can ride that .508 winning % straight to HOF……just imagine if he actually has some baseball intuition, he’d be dangerous.
Didn’t you love it when he sat there and watched Helsley give the PS away when RH was obviously toast??
Hight expectations you have Scouty…..HIGH

We saw what he could do with a team with any talent...see 2022...93-71

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Just ignore him putting Donny and Pozo in and actually winning the game with those moves and not losing the game. Blame KKKorn for his [shirt]ty 3b play.

They mentioned last night that Lizard Puke has had 2 runs or less support in 109 of his 190 games pitched.

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.

I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago???

I have not been an Oli fan for several reasons but I have to give him credit. He does not have a great roster. Ownership and management signaled early on they don’t believe in the team. They were sellers at the deadline. The player development under him is weak. Yet they are winning and 3 games out of the wild card.

I still think he is inexperienced and I don’t like the way he has handled certain players in the past.

But folks it’s time to acknowledge he has not been that bad.

This is ridiculous. Mikolas entered the 7th inning yesterday at about 60 pitches. Here is what happened in the 7th that is causing the couch managers to go nuts:

1. Bunt single and error by Gorman
2. Single
3. Ground Out
4. Ground Out
3. Single

Then Mikolas is replaced by Leahy. So you would have pulled Mikolas when he's in the 60's for pitch count and has only given up 3 hits the entire game? You'd 100% be a manager no pitcher would want to play for.

You guys would have pitchers getting hot in the bullpen every time a pitcher gave up a hit, just so they'd be ready and completely blow through every arm you had without even pitching them a month into the season. This place is nuts.

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.

I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago???

Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.

I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago???

That seems likely, yeah. If he didn’t bring him out for the 7th and the bullpen allowed runs to score it seems pretty likely you would have said you want Mikolas gone and he is awful but what kind of idiot pulls a pitcher after 6 when he’s cruising against a terrible Rockies team.

Cranny wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:19 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:10 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 13:00 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:48 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:37 pm Oli has overachieved with bad teams a few times. He’s not an incredible in game manager, but overall he’s not the problem. He catches a lot of unnecessary flack.

Should he have had someone warming in the pen in the 7th and a quick hook for Mikolas? Maybe, maybe not. But do you realize what an incredible nitpick that is?

That was the game. Sure Donny came off bench and saved the night……but that was the game
It’s gross negligence to NOT have somebody warming up in BP with Miles pitching after 4-5 innings ANY Game…..

Gross negligence? Calm down, Karen. It was a mistake in hindsight. Oli could have pulled Mikolas after the 6th and you’d complain about that too. You complain, it’s what you do.

I’d complain about pulling a guy in the 6h who I said to Trade/DFA months ago???

Say something positive, Goldfan. Anything. Come on, you can do it. One….Two….Three…

Cranny, didn’t your FO throw in the towel on the season?? They even gave up. If they were concerned about winning and getting back into WC contention would they have not brought in some much needed talent?? So I’m confused about what your motivation is?? Seeing the youngsters in a Cards uniform on the ole ball diamond?? You admit you don’t care about what the manager does. You don’t care about winning so much. You don’t care that Busch stadium has less fans in it than the 30 wins Rockies home stadium. So why do you watch this team??