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scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Relax. They put out a LH lineup. It's not like Walker moves the needle. One game
..
Yea early morning and coffee had me on the zing. I still start Walker. He’s hot. Had the face right handed pitching anyway when he came in. Broke his streak.

Weird things like this motivates people. Both directions.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
I think Gorman will improve at 3rd. He has played there consistently since 2019 (100 games single A league) and 2021 (32 games AA/AAA). Throws would be different, reactions different,.........hopefully he just needs a few more games to readjust.
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HorseTrader wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:38 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
I think Gorman will improve at 3rd. He has played there consistently since 2019 (100 games single A league) and 2021 (32 games AA/AAA). Throws would be different, reactions different,.........hopefully he just needs a few more games to readjust.
Surely game play isn’t the only play he gets at third. They gotta be working with him between games. He’s getting many off game reps I’d think.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:31 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Relax. They put out a LH lineup. It's not like Walker moves the needle. One game
..
Yea early morning and coffee had me on the zing. I still start Walker. He’s hot. Had the face right handed pitching anyway when he came in. Broke his streak.

Weird things like this motivates people. Both directions.
No. It's an overreaction to one game for a player who has a whole seasons ABs, of disappointment. Still got an AB and it was poor
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:44 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:31 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Relax. They put out a LH lineup. It's not like Walker moves the needle. One game
..
Yea early morning and coffee had me on the zing. I still start Walker. He’s hot. Had the face right handed pitching anyway when he came in. Broke his streak.

Weird things like this motivates people. Both directions.
No. It's an overreaction to one game for a player who has a whole seasons ABs, of disappointment. Still got an AB and it was poor
You are correct . Overreaction. I think it stems from him not starting.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 12 Aug 2025 06:23 am Does this assessment period end if/when Arenado returns?
Oli said Arenado plays when he’s ready.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:47 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:44 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:31 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Relax. They put out a LH lineup. It's not like Walker moves the needle. One game
..
Yea early morning and coffee had me on the zing. I still start Walker. He’s hot. Had the face right handed pitching anyway when he came in. Broke his streak.

Weird things like this motivates people. Both directions.
No. It's an overreaction to one game for a player who has a whole seasons ABs, of disappointment. Still got an AB and it was poor
You are correct . Overreaction. I think it stems from him not starting.
Noot has 3 times the HRs of JW...Cards didn't miss anything with him sitting. Apparently, winning the game isn't good enough
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Cranny wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:26 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
All season we’ve been watching Cardinal players take a third strike. Drives me goofy. Even high school coaches tell you to choke up and guard the plate with 2 strikes. Last night, Saggese did exactly that when he almost threw his bat at a two strike pitch and hit a bloop single to center. That’s what set up Donavan’s game winning at bat.
Contreras seems to take strike three a lot.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:47 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:44 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:31 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:28 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Relax. They put out a LH lineup. It's not like Walker moves the needle. One game
..
Yea early morning and coffee had me on the zing. I still start Walker. He’s hot. Had the face right handed pitching anyway when he came in. Broke his streak.

Weird things like this motivates people. Both directions.
No. It's an overreaction to one game for a player who has a whole seasons ABs, of disappointment. Still got an AB and it was poor
You are correct . Overreaction. I think it stems from him not starting.
Noot has 3 times the HRs of JW...Cards didn't miss anything with him sitting. Apparently, winning the game isn't good enough
Winning the game was mentioned in the OP. As was Donovan’(poop). Every game has its critics, that was mine. Two meager non important bitchhh topics.
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We've yet to hit a grand slam despite having 101 opportunities to do so.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
I did my bitchhhhing about Walker in the GDT, idiotic not to start him.

Second, I'm just going to copy from my other reply about Norman and say "you're right" BDog:


Was at the game last night and really focused on Norman's defense, something I haven't done since he moved from 2nd base.

Upon further review, I may have been wrong to say have some "patience".

His footwork is pitiful, his throws....well they're right there for everybody to see.

I'd still play him there as much as possible the remainder of this season.

BUT

J. Oquendo really has his work cut out for him next spring even trying to make him a league average 3rd baseman
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rightthinker4 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:54 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:26 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
All season we’ve been watching Cardinal players take a third strike. Drives me goofy. Even high school coaches tell you to choke up and guard the plate with 2 strikes. Last night, Saggese did exactly that when he almost threw his bat at a two strike pitch and hit a bloop single to center. That’s what set up Donavan’s game winning at bat.
Contreras seems to take strike three a lot.
Yep. He is a guess hitter, at least right now. He is often taking strike one right down central too. Whatever happened to the two strike approach? Geez.
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rockondlouie wrote: 12 Aug 2025 08:35 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
I did my bitchhhhing about Walker in the GDT, idiotic not to start him.

Second, I'm just going to copy from my other reply about Norman and say "you're right" BDog:


Was at the game last night and really focused on Norman's defense, something I haven't done since he moved from 2nd base.

Upon further review, I may have been wrong to say have some "patience".

His footwork is pitiful, his throws....well they're right there for everybody to see.

I'd still play him there as much as possible the remainder of this season.

BUT

J. Oquendo really has his work cut out for him next spring even trying to make him a league average 3rd baseman
foot work overall, is not a teach able thing. You can teach footwork around the bases but in free play, it must be a natural physical procedure. Sleeps in the same room as grace and coordination.
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Maybe the runway or reset gang of evaluators have never used or heard of the eye test or the duck test.
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ilcubuffs wrote: 12 Aug 2025 08:41 am Maybe the runway or reset gang of evaluators have never used or heard of the eye test or the duck test.
They are getting an eye full.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:25 am
ecleme22 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:11 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 05:44 am Good morning Vietnam.

Great movie.

What do I wanna bitchhh about. Two things.

One, Walker on a four game hit streak. And gets benched. But comes in as a defensive sub in the seventh- a defensive sub????? He certainly wasn’t benched for rest?

Not only did he not get a hit, he lost three at bats on the bench. I don’t get that strategy- a defensive sub!

Then Gorman at third. This must be a try out, because consistent ain’t it. The boy is horrible at third. It ain’t rust.

That’s it- two complaints from last nights game. Great win with the Donovan hit in the eighth.

Thoughts.
Walker:
1. He came in for an injured Nootbar.
2. Look up the term ‘benched.’ Not starting one game isn’t ’benched.’

Gorman:
1. Obviously there is some rust. I hope he starts most of the rest of the season.
You got me on number one of that the case except, not starting a hot player. Still ride the hot horse.

As for number two. No way. He would be the worst third baseman in recent memory.
No, a good player should be able to sit out ONE game.

But let's use your example: "Hey JW! You're on a 4 game hitting streak. We will keep starting you until you cool off. In other words, better get a hit today, buddy, or you're riding the pine!"

That's good for the psyche, no?
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