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Posted: **10 Aug 2025 20:32 pm**

12xu wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 16:51 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 13:13 pm
Rosie's Rule wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 00:55 am He has been getting work at 1st base before games - has been breaking in a new 1st base glove - by design.
Did he play there in the game last night?
Yes, Gorman was moved from 3B to 1B late in the game last night.

Thanks!
How did he do?

Posted: **10 Aug 2025 20:35 pm**

Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 20:32 pm
12xu wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 16:51 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 13:13 pm
Rosie's Rule wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 00:55 am He has been getting work at 1st base before games - has been breaking in a new 1st base glove - by design.
Did he play there in the game last night?
Yes, Gorman was moved from 3B to 1B late in the game last night.
Thanks!
How did he do?

better than he does at 3rd

Posted: **10 Aug 2025 20:51 pm**

IndCard75 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 19:49 pm
Whatashame wrote: ↑10 Aug 2025 12:05 pm I have been on this bandwagon for a while now. IF Gorman has a spot on this team, it’s as a 1B/DH. Gorman isn’t a good 2B and his instincts at 3B seem to have fallen off.

We are now and have been LH heavy for some time now. Our need for at least one and probably 2 RH bats is a necessity. Hopefully, Walker continues to improve as a RH hitting right fielder. We need another RH bat in that outfield.

When you look at the Cardinals I see a team that needs more athleticism and a need for RH bats. 2026 lineup
C Crooks/Herrera
1B Contreras/Gorman
2B Wetherholt
SS Winn
3B Donovan
LF Burleson
CF Scott/Church
RF Walker

We have one DH spot and possibly 3-4 guys who are probably DHs (Gorman, Burleson, Herrera, Contreras). It’s because of this that I could see trades involving Burleson, Gorman, and Donovan over the winter. To break the LH hitting logjam and to improve the athleticism of the Cardinals. A RH hitting 3B like Arenado used to be, is a solution. A RH hitting outfielder to play LF/CF is a solution.

When Bloom takes over and starts the shakeup, I fully expect RH hitting additions in these areas which makes guys like Burleson, Donovan and Gorman vulnerable.
They gave up on Herrera as a C and I can see Crooks being included in a trade for SP. Bernal is who I expect to be the C of the future.
My proposal Gorman and Crooks to Miami for Alcantara.

Arenado is going to be very difficult to trade so I expect him to still be at 3B unfortunately.

C Pages till Bernal is ready
1B WC with Herrera going to 1B when WC is gone
2B Wetherholt
SS Winn
3B Arenado
RF Walker
CF Scott
LF Donovan
DH Herrera

Pozo
Sagesse
Burly
Noot

This does little to help this team. Pages doesn’t catch for me anymore on a regular basis. Bernal won’t be here next year but Crooks has earned a look. If baseball imposes a lockout after next season is over, you might not see a Bernal until 2028. Unfortunate sure but a real possibility.

Arenado shouldn’t see 3B after this year. We need a replacement there and trade, release, whatever is needed to move on from NA.

Our issue is what to do with all of the DH material we have. Gorman may well be traded during the offseason but if he isn’t, 1B is the only position for him to play. He’s not a 2B and his skills have diminished as a 3B. How the Cardinals deal with the DH situation will define a lot for next year. Gorman, Burleson, Herrera and even Contreras are all DH material but only 1-2 can be used there. We need 2 RH bats, one for the outfield for sure and possibly one for the infield.

A team next year that includes Pages and Arenado in the starting lineup is destined to fail and delay development of other players. As I mentioned in my original post, I think that Burleson, Gorman, Donovan and Herrera are all in play as trade candidates over the winter.

Posted: **10 Aug 2025 22:49 pm**

Contreras has played a good 1B this season so I don’t understand him being listed as just DH material. Hererra could be a future 1B. I don’t see him being traded. As you said we need RHH so why would we trade one away? I agree Donovan Gorman Burly could be traded and I would add Noot to that list. Arenado, I would prefer he was traded but they won’t dfa that much money. They wouldn’t even dfa Mikolas this year.

Posted: **10 Aug 2025 22:58 pm**

The problem with Gorman at 3rd is that though he has a strong arm for throws , it is quite inaccurate .
The other night he almost put Contreras on the IL by throwing a ball up the first base line and WillyCon has his arm bent back by the runner flying by.
He allowed another guy to reach 1st tonight on a wide throw. That runner then turned to 2 runs as PCA's HR would have been a solo shot instead of 2 run HR.
I know we were spoiled by Arenado's accurate chest high throws most of the time but Gorman needs work on his throwing accuracy this offseason if he is still a Cardinal. Off target throws are costly.

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