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Wattage wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:19 pm My wish list (not what they'll do):

The new rules hold that you can only bring up 2 to have 28 total, but this isn't an ordinary year where they'd be take up vets' PT or where they are trying to get in the playoffs, so send a few down or DFA them, and give more than two players a chance (those who we think need to be here in 2026).
And let them play!

1. Wetherholt up - only roster add without another move
2. Crooks up / Pages down (or DFA): they need to quit pretending that Pedro is a major league baseball player, move on to the future, which will be some combination of Crooks and Bernal, barring a trade of one of them. Pedro needs to work on a lot of things (not being a statue behind the plate and hitting).
3. Church or Josh Baez up / DFA Hampson (.446 OPS - not a typo). They can't go on thinking Scott can hit. He's a 4/5th OF.
4. Mathews up / DFA Roddery Muñoz: Please end the Muñoz experiment. Mathews needs to see what MLB is about before Spring Training. Have him take some of Miko's starts, and yes, let Miko be the long reliever.

You can send other guys down but it wont cause there to be more than 9 players starting a game so either those guys wont really play or they will be benching players like donovan burleson winn which isnt happenning.

These isnt gonna magically be a ton of playing time for these guys.

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:19 pm My wish list (not what they'll do):

The new rules hold that you can only bring up 2 to have 28 total, but this isn't an ordinary year where they'd be take up vets' PT or where they are trying to get in the playoffs, so send a few down or DFA them, and give more than two players a chance (those who we think need to be here in 2026).
And let them play!

1. Wetherholt up - only roster add without another move
2. Crooks up / Pages down (or DFA): they need to quit pretending that Pedro is a major league baseball player, move on to the future, which will be some combination of Crooks and Bernal, barring a trade of one of them. Pedro needs to work on a lot of things (not being a statue behind the plate and hitting).
3. Church or Josh Baez up / DFA Hampson (.446 OPS - not a typo). They can't go on thinking Scott can hit. He's a 4/5th OF.
4. Mathews up / DFA Roddery Muñoz: Please end the Muñoz experiment. Mathews needs to see what MLB is about before Spring Training. Have him take some of Miko's starts, and yes, let Miko be the long reliever.

You can send other guys down but it wont cause there to be more than 9 players starting a game so either those guys wont really play or they will be benching players like donovan burleson winn which isnt happenning.

These isnt gonna magically be a ton of playing time for these guys.

Specifically
You don’t see them playing Wetherholt?

Wattage wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:19 pm My wish list (not what they'll do):

The new rules hold that you can only bring up 2 to have 28 total, but this isn't an ordinary year where they'd be take up vets' PT or where they are trying to get in the playoffs, so send a few down or DFA them, and give more than two players a chance (those who we think need to be here in 2026).
And let them play!

1. Wetherholt up - only roster add without another move
2. Crooks up / Pages down (or DFA): they need to quit pretending that Pedro is a major league baseball player, move on to the future, which will be some combination of Crooks and Bernal, barring a trade of one of them. Pedro needs to work on a lot of things (not being a statue behind the plate and hitting).
3. Church or Josh Baez up / DFA Hampson (.446 OPS - not a typo). They can't go on thinking Scott can hit. He's a 4/5th OF.
4. Mathews up / DFA Roddery Muñoz: Please end the Muñoz experiment. Mathews needs to see what MLB is about before Spring Training. Have him take some of Miko's starts, and yes, let Miko be the long reliever.

You can send other guys down but it wont cause there to be more than 9 players starting a game so either those guys wont really play or they will be benching players like donovan burleson winn which isnt happenning.

These isnt gonna magically be a ton of playing time for these guys.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 13:17 pm Easy DFA's from the 40 man:

-Hampson
-SInai
-Roycroft
-King
-Munoz
-Robberse
-Pages (but won't happen until seasons end)

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

Charles King wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 21:01 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

Mikalos comes off after the season anyway
A decision has to made about Thompson

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:19 pm My wish list (not what they'll do):

The new rules hold that you can only bring up 2 to have 28 total, but this isn't an ordinary year where they'd be take up vets' PT or where they are trying to get in the playoffs, so send a few down or DFA them, and give more than two players a chance (those who we think need to be here in 2026).
And let them play!

1. Wetherholt up - only roster add without another move
2. Crooks up / Pages down (or DFA): they need to quit pretending that Pedro is a major league baseball player, move on to the future, which will be some combination of Crooks and Bernal, barring a trade of one of them. Pedro needs to work on a lot of things (not being a statue behind the plate and hitting).
3. Church or Josh Baez up / DFA Hampson (.446 OPS - not a typo). They can't go on thinking Scott can hit. He's a 4/5th OF.
4. Mathews up / DFA Roddery Muñoz: Please end the Muñoz experiment. Mathews needs to see what MLB is about before Spring Training. Have him take some of Miko's starts, and yes, let Miko be the long reliever.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

Wattage wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 15:24 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

ClassicO wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 12:19 pm My wish list (not what they'll do):

The new rules hold that you can only bring up 2 to have 28 total, but this isn't an ordinary year where they'd be take up vets' PT or where they are trying to get in the playoffs, so send a few down or DFA them, and give more than two players a chance (those who we think need to be here in 2026).
And let them play!

1. Wetherholt up - only roster add without another move
2. Crooks up / Pages down (or DFA): they need to quit pretending that Pedro is a major league baseball player, move on to the future, which will be some combination of Crooks and Bernal, barring a trade of one of them. Pedro needs to work on a lot of things (not being a statue behind the plate and hitting).
3. Church or Josh Baez up / DFA Hampson (.446 OPS - not a typo). They can't go on thinking Scott can hit. He's a 4/5th OF.
4. Mathews up / DFA Roddery Muñoz: Please end the Muñoz experiment. Mathews needs to see what MLB is about before Spring Training. Have him take some of Miko's starts, and yes, let Miko be the long reliever.

You can send other guys down but it wont cause there to be more than 9 players starting a game so either those guys wont really play or they will be benching players like donovan burleson winn which isnt happenning.

These isnt gonna magically be a ton of playing time for these guys.

Specifically
You don’t see them playing Wetherholt?

They wanted to give gorman runway this season. He likely still plays in september. If there is at bats available. Saggese still needs more evaluation rather than bringing another player into fray immediately. Or let herrera play.more outfield while dpnovan plays 2b/3b. Herrera could use the reps.

The one i agree with wholeheartedly is crooks because there is absolutely zero reason to give pages starts cuz we know he isnt a future starting catcher.

I dont k ow ifnthey do that with crooks but i know they wont be sending 2-3 or more players down just to add 4 guys to 40 man roster already. It just wont happen nor do i think it should.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 23:07 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Aug 2025 20:58 pm I don't think the Cardinals 40 man roster is full (37?). They do have to add Crooks and Church this winter. They could call up Mathews, Wetherholt, Church, and Crooks while DFA'ing Mikolas and Hampson. They aren't letting Pages go at this time. What would you think of all that?

I think it is more complicated than that. I think they also need to add, Bernal, Hjerpe, Blaze Jordan and Thompson when he comes off the 60 day IL as well. Since both Crooks and Church have to be added anyway this winter, it seems like they make the most sense to bring up this September. But, anyone that doesn't need to be added is unlikely to come up because they won't want to use the roster spot for that player, i.e. Wetherholdt. He will get added to the roster next spring when they can move one of Roby or Hjerpe back onto the 60 day IL.

Since they have at least 6 players to add, 3 open spots and plus Mikolas takes care of 4 of them. So they need at least 2 more to get to 40 but really 4 more to create room. Sianni, Hampson and Koperniak are obvious ones to get 3 of the 4 open. There are several pitchers that could go. But, if they put Wetherholdt on now, it creates another spot they lose this winter. I don't think they will do that, no matter how much we all want to see Wetherholdt.