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desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

Sagesse, Pages, Hampson

KMN

I loathe Oli so much.

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

Thanks Duce!

thx Duce

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

Norman needs to improve just to be a JAG imo

Can't wait to hear what Coach Molina has to say about today's lineup. Cus as Marmot stated "he just has a unique way of communicating what [success] looks like.”

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

You don't know what we have in Saggese. I think the Cardinals probably know what they have in Gorman.
Could be the decision about him has already been made.

cardinalsfan27 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:31 pm I don’t get starting Hampson, he has nothing to do with the team going forward. I’d rather see Noot in CF getting some more AB’s.

The 26th man on the team getting some run, I expect he will be DFA'd around the August 15-18.

riff raff wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:03 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

You don't know what we have in Saggese. I think the Cardinals probably know what they have in Gorman.
Could be the decision about him has already been made.

Could be, but if the decision has been made in the answer is "no," why not move him at the deadline? If the answer isn't "no" he needs to play.

As for Saggese, I haven't seen a ton that's amazing, and there's a glut of middle infielder types. Someone's got to go.

cardinalsfan27 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:31 pm I don’t get starting Hampson, he has nothing to do with the team going forward. I’d rather see Noot in CF getting some more AB’s.

Yeah, Hampson should never start another game. One wonders why he is even on the roster at this point.

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

cardinalsfan27 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:31 pm I don’t get starting Hampson, he has nothing to do with the team going forward. I’d rather see Noot in CF getting some more AB’s.

The 26th man on the team getting some run, I expect he will be DFA'd around the August 15-18.

Hopefully.

dugoutrex wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:30 pm

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 15:23 pm AND just when you thought Oli’s lineups couldn’t get weirder? AND against the Cubs.

what's so weird about it ?

Watch many games? I guess not.

ilcubuffs wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:02 pm Can't wait to hear what Coach Molina has to say about today's lineup. Cus as Marmot stated "he just has a unique way of communicating what [success] looks like.”

Prioritizing basketball in July would certainly be one interesting way of communicating what baseball success looks like....

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:24 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:03 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

You don't know what we have in Saggese. I think the Cardinals probably know what they have in Gorman.
Could be the decision about him has already been made.

Could be, but if the decision has been made in the answer is "no," why not move him at the deadline? If the answer isn't "no" he needs to play.

As for Saggese, I haven't seen a ton that's amazing, and there's a glut of middle infielder types. Someone's got to go.

Hard to say. He was on the IL. Maybe no immediate need for a dh only player. The season's not over so we'll see.
Personally, I'm trading Gorman. I've maintained that since spring training.

riff raff wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 18:36 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:24 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 17:03 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:35 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:20 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:08 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 16:02 pm Play. Gorman. Every. Day. I don’t care if a lefty is starting or not.

His back probably acted up on him

Could be but I feel like it’s more a lefty/lefty thing. Big leaguers have to hit righties and lefties. He’s only got 277 plate appearances in his career against lefties. Needs to learn sometime.

If his back is OK he needs to play. I respect that Oli wants to win today's game but the focus should be on next year.

100%. Thomas Saggese is just another guy. You know what you have in him. This season was supposed to be about runway for Walker and Gorman. Play him.

You don't know what we have in Saggese. I think the Cardinals probably know what they have in Gorman.
Could be the decision about him has already been made.

Could be, but if the decision has been made in the answer is "no," why not move him at the deadline? If the answer isn't "no" he needs to play.

As for Saggese, I haven't seen a ton that's amazing, and there's a glut of middle infielder types. Someone's got to go.

Hard to say. He was on the IL. Maybe no immediate need for a dh only player. The season's not over so we'll see.
Personally, I'm trading Gorman. I've maintained that since spring training.

Agree Gorman is the king of short sample size he will have a hot streak and people say he’s figured it out and he’s going to be a 30-40 home run hitter but he’s not. He’s a “power” hitter with a .719 OPS and as many home runs as Herrera who people say isn’t a power hitter