Ex-NHL GM Criticizes Oilers’ Decision To Let Prized D-Man Walk Away in 2024

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Re: Ex-NHL GM Criticizes Oilers’ Decision To Let Prized D-Man Walk Away in 2024

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Natl20 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 13:50 pm
SRV1990 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 11:40 am
Backesdraft wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
Well I’d rather be able to visit this forum without having to read drivel - in every thread - from a human doormat with a 2nd grade education who lives in his moms basement and exists on bologna sandwiches. Sometimes we don’t get what we want though.
Can you imagine being such a brain dead d-bag that you'd value HOW a team acquires talent more than the results of the talent acquired? I mean, no one can truly be that stupid, right? Count me as one who doesn't give two [censored] how any of the professional teams I support acquires their talent, as long as they win. "Just win, baby" - Al Davis
I know in baseball both the Angels / Dodgers and their fans hate that they acquired Ohtani via the international signing / free agent signing and not the draft! It happens all the time, people want players in the draft!! (nvm that only applies to the brain dead)
I get your point, and no this isn't a MLB forum, but MLB has to fix this and get these guys in their draft. Makes no sense that teams have to bid and pay an absolute ransom just to be able to bid on them. What a messed up system.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
Alright Smelly, put your money where you mouth is. I'd be willing to bet that the Blues win another cup before they draft in the top 5!

The Blues top end talent is good enough to compete with the elite and the overwhelming depth of (at least) second liners forthcoming (in the next few years) will enable them to roll 4 lines similar to 2019. The 'D' is better than you think.

Broberg was developing amazingly well before his injury. I don't believe he was ever back to 100% after the injury and have very high expectations this year as i believe his (early/pre-injury) play really helped to spark Parayko's offensive breakout - which also built off the addition of Fowler.
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StlFanInVA wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:22 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
Alright Smelly, put your money where you mouth is. I'd be willing to bet that the Blues win another cup before they draft in the top 5!

The Blues top end talent is good enough to compete with the elite and the overwhelming depth of (at least) second liners forthcoming (in the next few years) will enable them to roll 4 lines similar to 2019. The 'D' is better than you think.

Broberg was developing amazingly well before his injury. I don't believe he was ever back to 100% after the injury and have very high expectations this year as i believe his (early/pre-injury) play really helped to spark Parayko's offensive breakout - which also built off the addition of Fowler.
I firmly believe we have the talent to be Stanley Cup Contenders by next year, however we very likely will have to make one vomit inducing trade, or one out of the ordinary UFA signing.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.
This isn’t true. You’re creating situations in your head to get mad about them.
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theograce wrote: 07 Aug 2025 11:42 am 5:32 am googling Blues…everyday
On days I decide to work, yes. Other days I do it later.

I'll be going on vacation for 10 days in a week and won't be posting at all.

Will you be trying to break your record while I'm gone? lulz-lulz

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TBone wrote: 07 Aug 2025 15:18 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Aug 2025 11:42 am 5:32 am googling Blues…everyday
On days I decide to work, yes.
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CoinsOperated wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:40 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
You have to consider the source, he knows nothing! He is just a poor little troll who wants attention. He can't back anything up.
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If anything the complaint should be the team didn't realize the players they had under RFA were better than the players they were picking up on the FA market. They didn't trad Ceci until after the offer sheets indicating they really never respected the skills of Broberg or Holloway. I am glad Army realized the skills pf those two players.

I see the Edmonton Cup window as closed. No way to get enough into that team as it is and a reboot or move of the top two is almost unthinkable. If the Blues win the Cup with Broberg or Holloway they will just lose their minds in Edmonton.
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StlFanInVA wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:22 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
Alright Smelly, put your money where you mouth is. I'd be willing to bet that the Blues win another cup before they draft in the top 5!

The Blues top end talent is good enough to compete with the elite and the overwhelming depth of (at least) second liners forthcoming (in the next few years) will enable them to roll 4 lines similar to 2019. The 'D' is better than you think.

Broberg was developing amazingly well before his injury. I don't believe he was ever back to 100% after the injury and have very high expectations this year as i believe his (early/pre-injury) play really helped to spark Parayko's offensive breakout - which also built off the addition of Fowler.
I respect this, someone that is willing to wager that the Blues are close to winning a Cup.

I'd like to take you up on this, but you miss my full point. The problem is not just that the Blues need a TOP5 pick. The problem is that they DON"T WANT ONE--under any circumstances. This approach is unique to the Blues, or close to it. The only reason I can come up with is that doing so affects the team revenue.

So no. I would never bet on the Blues getting a TOP5. Not ever. Even if they lost horribly, they would trade the pick away, tell the NHL to fake the lottery and push them down, etc.

I would be glad to wager this, however. Army said that he is shooting for 5% improvement this year, a modest gain. I would bet that they will not do 5% better than last year.
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The Average Gatsby wrote: 07 Aug 2025 15:09 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.
This isn’t true. You’re creating situations in your head to get mad about them.
You need to crawl out from under your rock. Do some research, man. It will be refreshing for you. Maybe it will open your eyes.

Here is a fresh ranking from The Hockey Guy. He generally loves the Blues. Of the last 30 Cup winners, he ranked the Blues 2019 team at #26.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Dnc5Hd8qw
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wiscrev wrote: 07 Aug 2025 16:35 pm
CoinsOperated wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:40 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
You have to consider the source, he knows nothing! He is just a poor little troll who wants attention. He can't back anything up.
You need to crawl out from under your rock. Do some research, man. It will be refreshing for you. Maybe it will open your eyes.

Here is a fresh ranking from The Hockey Guy. He generally loves the Blues. Of the last 30 Cup winners, he ranked the Blues 2019 team at #26.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Dnc5Hd8qw
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SRV1990 wrote: 07 Aug 2025 11:40 am
Backesdraft wrote: 07 Aug 2025 09:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
Well I’d rather be able to visit this forum without having to read drivel - in every thread - from a human doormat with a 2nd grade education who lives in his moms basement and exists on bologna sandwiches. Sometimes we don’t get what we want though.
Can you imagine being such a brain dead d-bag that you'd value HOW a team acquires talent more than the results of the talent acquired? I mean, no one can truly be that stupid, right? Count me as one who doesn't give two [censored] how any of the professional teams I support acquires their talent, as long as they win. "Just win, baby" - Al Davis
No team has ever won a Cup because of Offer Sheets. Nearly every Cup winner attributes acquiring great talent in the draft.

You know who uses offer sheets? GM's in desperate roster shape--like Army.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 17:47 pm
wiscrev wrote: 07 Aug 2025 16:35 pm
CoinsOperated wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:40 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
You have to consider the source, he knows nothing! He is just a poor little troll who wants attention. He can't back anything up.
You need to crawl out from under your rock. Do some research, man. It will be refreshing for you. Maybe it will open your eyes.

Here is a fresh ranking from The Hockey Guy. He generally loves the Blues. Of the last 30 Cup winners, he ranked the Blues 2019 team at #26.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Dnc5Hd8qw
LOL! It may pass time ranking Cup teams but it means NOTHING. NOTHING. ZIP, NADA, NOTHING.

I'd rank them by the parades. St. Louis and the Blues and all the fans put on a great show. That seems more valid, fan response.
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DawgDad wrote: 07 Aug 2025 18:30 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 17:47 pm
wiscrev wrote: 07 Aug 2025 16:35 pm
CoinsOperated wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:40 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
You have to consider the source, he knows nothing! He is just a poor little troll who wants attention. He can't back anything up.
You need to crawl out from under your rock. Do some research, man. It will be refreshing for you. Maybe it will open your eyes.

Here is a fresh ranking from The Hockey Guy. He generally loves the Blues. Of the last 30 Cup winners, he ranked the Blues 2019 team at #26.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Dnc5Hd8qw
LOL! It may pass time ranking Cup teams but it means NOTHING. NOTHING. ZIP, NADA, NOTHING.

I'd rank them by the parades. St. Louis and the Blues and all the fans put on a great show. That seems more valid, fan response.
The guy is wearing a Spider-Man hoodie and has a whiteboard. This is pretty damning stuff.
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DawgDad wrote: 07 Aug 2025 18:30 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 17:47 pm
wiscrev wrote: 07 Aug 2025 16:35 pm
CoinsOperated wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:40 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Aug 2025 07:18 am No one in the NHL thinks much about the Blues win. However, they can't take their eyes off the one that Edmonton lost.

In the history books, Army and St Louis will be known more for the Stanley Cup that they stole from Edmonton (and the greatest duo ever) than the one that they won for themselves.

Kinda (bleep) IMO.

I would much rather have the GM that builds his team through the draft instead of stealing from other's benches.
This is the dumbest thing I'll read on the internet today.
You have to consider the source, he knows nothing! He is just a poor little troll who wants attention. He can't back anything up.
You need to crawl out from under your rock. Do some research, man. It will be refreshing for you. Maybe it will open your eyes.

Here is a fresh ranking from The Hockey Guy. He generally loves the Blues. Of the last 30 Cup winners, he ranked the Blues 2019 team at #26.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Dnc5Hd8qw
LOL! It may pass time ranking Cup teams but it means NOTHING. NOTHING. ZIP, NADA, NOTHING.

I'd rank them by the parades. St. Louis and the Blues and all the fans put on a great show. That seems more valid, fan response.
Not only that but what does the ‘19 team have to do with 25-26??
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