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Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 06:56 am
by Basil Shabazz
Vinegar Ben wrote: 06 Aug 2025 05:13 am He can't hit; he isn't a great defender either. He looks like he is just going through the motions, no effort or enthusiasm. Dump him, J.D. Drew all over again! The Cardinals need to make a complete make over. Get a new manager, pitching coach, hitting coach. Get rid of Mikolas, Pallante, "HOT DOG" Contreras and Liberatore.
Way to show your baseball ignorance. If Gorman sniffs a JD Drew career, he'd be awesome to have.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 07:31 am
by butsir01
JuanAgosto wrote: 06 Aug 2025 00:15 am
Chitownredbird wrote: 05 Aug 2025 22:34 pm And play him where?

We have a plethora of DHs. He isn’t a 3B. He’s less of a liability at 2B but has negative range. Best position is probably LF but if the choice there is him or Herrera, I don’t think it’s him.

Course if we trade him, he’ll turn into Garcia.
Who is Garcia?
Adolis Garcia or Garcia y Vega little cigars.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 07:54 am
by redbirdfan51
Gorman and Walker needs to be an everyday player the rest of the season. I hope Gorman is a better defensive 3B from what I've been seeing lately or perhaps he needs to change positions. He is a decent 2B , but Saggesse or Wetherholt might be better suited at 2B than Gorman defensively.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:14 am
by Melville
Cardinals1964 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 00:12 am Gorman is only 25 years old. Cardinals only potential 30 HR guy on a Punch and Judy team.
If given 600 PA's, Gorman is a 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 LH power hitter - with a lot of swing and miss.
Zero question about that.
My personal, impartial, agenda free, bias free guarantee - which is the best guarantee available anywhere.
Super Slo Mo said before the year began that Gorman would receive 500+ PA's this season.
Not going to happen.
Incredibly stupid mismanagement on his part.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:22 am
by scoutyjones2
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:14 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 00:12 am Gorman is only 25 years old. Cardinals only potential 30 HR guy on a Punch and Judy team.
If given 600 PA's, Gorman is a 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 LH power hitter - with a lot of swing and miss.
Zero question about that.
My personal, impartial, agenda free, bias free guarantee - which is the best guarantee available anywhere.
Super Slo Mo said before the year began that Gorman would receive 500+ PA's this season.
Not going to happen.
Incredibly stupid mismanagement on his part.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I thought he was a UniKKKorn? 40 HRs at 2b?

He can't even play without hurting back year in, year out. He's not nimble enough at 3b. Never will see 600 ABs.

If Winn is still here, he's not playing 2b because Hurdy and JJ.

Look how Smellville capitulates on the KKKorn's expectations

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
by rockondlouie
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
by Basil Shabazz
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:52 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Have you been in my stash?
Did you see your numbers.
And after Nado, the last person to compare him to is Gorman. That’s what will happen. Every defensive play he don’t make, will be critiqued against a legend.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:58 am
by rockondlouie
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Right now he's the ONLY player in the organization w/true raw power.

At 25 yrs old he's got a career .432 slg% (not great, not bad either) and a 103 OPS+.

Agree 100%, play him every game (3B, 2B or DH) and lets see what he can do.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:00 am
by Melville
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:52 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Have you been in my stash?
Did you see your numbers.
And after Nado, the last person to compare him to is Gorman. That’s what will happen. Every defensive play he don’t make, will be critiqued against a legend.
N/A has made himself more of an infamy than a legend at this point.
ANY player who will produce 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 while playing 3B would quickly make N/A little more than a punch line.
Unfortunate but unavoidable outcome.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
by Melville
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:58 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Right now he's the ONLY player in the organization w/true raw power.

At 25 yrs old he's got a career .432 slg% (not great, not bad either) and a 103 OPS+.

Agree 100%, play him every game (3B, 2B or DH) and lets see what he can do.
Could not possibly be a more obvious CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:02 am
by ramfandan
Unsure if he will ever be full time 500+ at bat type player due to his back issue(s).

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:04 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:00 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:52 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Have you been in my stash?
Did you see your numbers.
And after Nado, the last person to compare him to is Gorman. That’s what will happen. Every defensive play he don’t make, will be critiqued against a legend.
N/A has made himself more of an infamy than a legend at this point.
ANY player who will produce 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 while playing 3B would quickly make N/A little more than a punch line.
Unfortunate but unavoidable outcome.
Wasn’t about Nado. Was about Gorman and his defense. Even at those numbers it would be bad.
Yes, any other player with those numbers would do as you say. Not Gorman.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:04 am
by rockondlouie
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:58 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Right now he's the ONLY player in the organization w/true raw power.

At 25 yrs old he's got a career .432 slg% (not great, not bad either) and a 103 OPS+.

Agree 100%, play him every game (3B, 2B or DH) and lets see what he can do.
Could not possibly be a more obvious CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
:wink:

But will our inept Manager do it?

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:08 am
by Melville
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:04 am
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:00 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:52 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Have you been in my stash?
Did you see your numbers.
And after Nado, the last person to compare him to is Gorman. That’s what will happen. Every defensive play he don’t make, will be critiqued against a legend.
N/A has made himself more of an infamy than a legend at this point.
ANY player who will produce 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 while playing 3B would quickly make N/A little more than a punch line.
Unfortunate but unavoidable outcome.
Wasn’t about Nado. Was about Gorman and his defense. Even at those numbers it would be bad.
Yes, any other player with those numbers would do as you say. Not Gorman.
His glove will be just fine with reps at the spot.

Re: Gorman

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:10 am
by OldRed
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:08 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:04 am
Melville wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:00 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:52 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:48 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:45 am
southernblues wrote: 05 Aug 2025 21:37 pm Would like to see what Gorman could do playing everyday!
+1

And that includes vs LHSP

.500 team needs to use these remaining games smartly to evaluate the true "runway" players.
He should be at 3B every day, no matter the pitcher. Sink or swim time. If he is a cost-controlled 25/80 .240/.310/.780 guy who plays average 3B, then he is fine for a few years.
Have you been in my stash?
Did you see your numbers.
And after Nado, the last person to compare him to is Gorman. That’s what will happen. Every defensive play he don’t make, will be critiqued against a legend.
N/A has made himself more of an infamy than a legend at this point.
ANY player who will produce 25+ HR, 80 runs scored, 80+RBI, .240/.310 while playing 3B would quickly make N/A little more than a punch line.
Unfortunate but unavoidable outcome.
Wasn’t about Nado. Was about Gorman and his defense. Even at those numbers it would be bad.
Yes, any other player with those numbers would do as you say. Not Gorman.
His glove will be just fine with reps at the spot.
Lack of range the ability to come in on bunts was displayed in the Padres series.