Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 19:45 pm
Putting themselves in position to finish 4th/5th next year in the NLC. Cant risk that.
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Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 19:45 pm
darn it I wanted to see him trade solid players so the same morons here could complain about the trades
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 19:54 pm
"Ryan used me as an object..."icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:44 pmYou're wrong. You're out of your league on grammar with me. I know it backward and forward. The object of the preposition is the entire clause consisting of "whoever is the lastest object of his affection and obsession."Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:35 pmNope.icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:21 pm"Whoever," please. It's the subject of the clause here. That takes precedence. Just thought I'd educate you a bit.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:12 pmI know Mo better than Mo know Mo.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 18:57 pm John Mozeliak on why he retained his position players, despite significant interest:
"We got hit a lot on our left-handed hitters ... but we were not motivated to move players that we had under control unless we were, to put it mildly, blown away. And we just weren't."
Expecting to be blown away for f'in Nootbaar!?!?!?!
Un f'in real this dude man
When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
When it comes to whomever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken.You see, I was an editor for decades. Watch your language around me.
The subject of the clause was Mo.
The player is the subject of the verb - making "whomever" the correct word.
This is straight from AI if you need further proof that exactly what I stated to you was correct.
The grammatically correct word in the sentence "When it comes to whoever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken" is whoever.
Here's why:
"Whoever" acts as the subject of the verb "is" within the dependent clause "whoever is the latest object...".
"Whomever" is an object pronoun, functioning as the object of a verb or preposition. While "to" is a preposition in your example, the entire clause "whoever is the latest object..." acts as the object of the preposition "to," and within that clause, "whoever" is the subject of the verb "is".
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 19:55 pm
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 19:59 pm
One thing for sure, those who said it was a brilliant move by Mo to hold on to Helsley and Feddee this off season so we could get a haul of top prospects at the trade deadline were proven wrong.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:00 pm
Hmmm...icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:44 pmYou're wrong. You're out of your league on grammar with me. I know it backward and forward. The object of the preposition is the entire clause consisting of "whoever is the lastest object of his affection and obsession."Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:35 pmNope.icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:21 pm"Whoever," please. It's the subject of the clause here. That takes precedence. Just thought I'd educate you a bit.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:12 pmI know Mo better than Mo know Mo.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 18:57 pm John Mozeliak on why he retained his position players, despite significant interest:
"We got hit a lot on our left-handed hitters ... but we were not motivated to move players that we had under control unless we were, to put it mildly, blown away. And we just weren't."
Expecting to be blown away for f'in Nootbaar!?!?!?!
Un f'in real this dude man
When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
When it comes to whomever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken.
The subject of the clause was Mo.
The player is the subject of the verb - making "whomever" the correct word.
This is straight from AI if you need further proof that exactly what I stated to you was correct.
The grammatically correct word in the sentence "When it comes to whoever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken" is whoever.
Here's why:
"Whoever" acts as the subject of the verb "is" within the dependent clause "whoever is the latest object...".
"Whomever" is an object pronoun, functioning as the object of a verb or preposition. While "to" is a preposition in your example, the entire clause "whoever is the latest object..." acts as the object of the preposition "to," and within that clause, "whoever" is the subject of the verb "is".
On one hand you know it backward and forward.
On the other, you need 'AI" to give you the answer.
That said, I accept the point - "whomever" of you is providing it.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:02 pm
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:11 pm
Would not surprise me at all if Bloom and the new player development guys want to keep Nootbaar around. There is still a lot to like in his peripherals and statcast data. Someone might feel he’s very close to getting unlocked.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:14 pm
So, year 5 he will get "unlocked"?An Old Friend wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 20:11 pm Would not surprise me at all if Bloom and the new player development guys want to keep Nootbaar around. There is still a lot to like in his peripherals and statcast data. Someone might feel he’s very close to getting unlocked.
Don't bet the house.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:20 pm
no, you didn’t. you wanted come on here to grasp at straws. trying to defend a man who is so afraid to make another mistake in the trade market must be exhausting.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:39 pm
He's so smug and, arrogant...and has, as some have said, a very punchable face...I'm guessing they were joking?Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 18:57 pm John Mozeliak on why he retained his position players, despite significant interest:
"We got hit a lot on our left-handed hitters ... but we were not motivated to move players that we had under control unless we were, to put it mildly, blown away. And we just weren't."
Expecting to be blown away for f'in Nootbaar!?!?!?!
Un f'in real this dude man
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:39 pm
Taking ABs from Gorman can only be a good thing for the Cardinals. But I fail to see how keeping Nootbaar takes any ABs from the aforementioned players, as Noot is an OF, Gorman is a DH and the others are IFs, one of whom is in Memphis.peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:17 pm He didn’t trade them because he’s a chicken [redacted]. Gotten smoked so many times in the past in the trade market. Scared of his own shadow.
Such a hypocrite. Spent all offseason talking about “runway” for young players. Keeping Nootbaar only takes away ABs from Gorman, Wetherholdt and his prize acquisition from 2023 selloff- Saggese.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 20:41 pm
We, the fans, are better off Mo not trading position players. Let’s wait until Bloom is in charge and let him sort out the roster.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 21:23 pm
I did not need AI. I know the grammar. It has been part of my business for decades. I just used it to confirm to you I was right. You know, when you think you know everything, you never learn anything. I wouldn't try to argue with you on management strategies. You shouldn't argue with me on grammar. And I don't correct others' grammar on here. But you can use a comeuppance now and again. Have a good evening.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 20:00 pmHmmm...icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:44 pmYou're wrong. You're out of your league on grammar with me. I know it backward and forward. The object of the preposition is the entire clause consisting of "whoever is the lastest object of his affection and obsession."Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:35 pmNope.icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:21 pm"Whoever," please. It's the subject of the clause here. That takes precedence. Just thought I'd educate you a bit.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:12 pmI know Mo better than Mo know Mo.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 18:57 pm John Mozeliak on why he retained his position players, despite significant interest:
"We got hit a lot on our left-handed hitters ... but we were not motivated to move players that we had under control unless we were, to put it mildly, blown away. And we just weren't."
Expecting to be blown away for f'in Nootbaar!?!?!?!
Un f'in real this dude man
When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
When it comes to whomever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken.
The subject of the clause was Mo.
The player is the subject of the verb - making "whomever" the correct word.
This is straight from AI if you need further proof that exactly what I stated to you was correct.
The grammatically correct word in the sentence "When it comes to whoever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken" is whoever.
Here's why:
"Whoever" acts as the subject of the verb "is" within the dependent clause "whoever is the latest object...".
"Whomever" is an object pronoun, functioning as the object of a verb or preposition. While "to" is a preposition in your example, the entire clause "whoever is the latest object..." acts as the object of the preposition "to," and within that clause, "whoever" is the subject of the verb "is".
On one hand you know it backward and forward.
On the other, you need 'AI" to give you the answer.
That said, I accept the point - "whomever" of you is providing it.
And I promise not to correct your grammar henceforth.
Re: Moe on why he held on to position players - per K. Woo
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 21:32 pm
My previous post was in the spirit of humor.icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 21:23 pmI did not need AI. I know the grammar. It has been part of my business for decades. I just used it to confirm to you I was right. You know, when you think you know everything, you never learn anything. I wouldn't try to argue with you on management strategies. You shouldn't argue with me on grammar. And I don't correct others' grammar on here. But you can use a comeuppance now and again. Have a good evening.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 20:00 pmHmmm...icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:44 pmYou're wrong. You're out of your league on grammar with me. I know it backward and forward. The object of the preposition is the entire clause consisting of "whoever is the lastest object of his affection and obsession."Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:35 pmNope.icon wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:21 pm"Whoever," please. It's the subject of the clause here. That takes precedence. Just thought I'd educate you a bit.Melville wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 19:12 pmI know Mo better than Mo know Mo.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 18:57 pm John Mozeliak on why he retained his position players, despite significant interest:
"We got hit a lot on our left-handed hitters ... but we were not motivated to move players that we had under control unless we were, to put it mildly, blown away. And we just weren't."
Expecting to be blown away for f'in Nootbaar!?!?!?!
Un f'in real this dude man
When Mo falls in love, he falls hard.
When it comes to whomever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken.
The subject of the clause was Mo.
The player is the subject of the verb - making "whomever" the correct word.
This is straight from AI if you need further proof that exactly what I stated to you was correct.
The grammatically correct word in the sentence "When it comes to whoever is the latest object of his affection and obsession, Mo the eternal romantic remains faithful until his heart is broken" is whoever.
Here's why:
"Whoever" acts as the subject of the verb "is" within the dependent clause "whoever is the latest object...".
"Whomever" is an object pronoun, functioning as the object of a verb or preposition. While "to" is a preposition in your example, the entire clause "whoever is the latest object..." acts as the object of the preposition "to," and within that clause, "whoever" is the subject of the verb "is".
On one hand you know it backward and forward.
On the other, you need 'AI" to give you the answer.
That said, I accept the point - "whomever" of you is providing it.
And I promise not to correct your grammar henceforth.
I suspect you will see that when you re-read it.
You are welcome to correct any grammatical errors.
Forthwith.