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Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:27 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

No.

Why is Nootbaar still here? Why is Gorman still here? Why is Romero still here? Why did we ONLY trade three pretty important pieces of our bullpen and get back mostly lotto tickets? Or dudes with "good peripherals" but who absolutely suck when it comes to the bottom line? Why didn't we address the redundancies that clog this roster up?

I expected no blockbusters. I'm not shocked that we got zero major league talent for TODAY. But crikey, I didn't expect to have to squint so hard to see MLB potential in 5/6ths of who we traded for in the past 24 hours.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:32 pm

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:29 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

We didn’t sell all the players we should have so no.

What sense did it make to hold onto Maton, Matz and Helsley?

Say we got nothing back is completely wrong.

Who should we have "sold" that doesn't still have control (or a NTC)?

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:33 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:28 pm

imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

Premature speculation.

(There are remedies for that)

They are 40 and at best a 50 grade prospect. That's not speculation. Its just proper interpretation of scouting reports.

Very short sighted view. We received players to add to our prospect pool for players we were going to lose for nothing.

This gives more depth for Bloom to trade from in the offseason to make larger trades.

There is also a chance one or two actually have an impact for us at the major league level.

Please tell me why you were against this? It makes zero sense to hold the players.

imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

Premature speculation.

(There are remedies for that)

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:37 pm

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:33 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:28 pm

imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

Premature speculation.

(There are remedies for that)

They are 40 and at best a 50 grade prospect. That's not speculation. Its just proper interpretation of scouting reports.

Very short sighted view. We received players to add to our prospect pool for players we were going to lose for nothing.

This gives more depth for Bloom to trade from in the offseason to make larger trades.

There is also a chance one or two actually have an impact for us at the major league level.

Please tell me why you were against this? It makes zero sense to hold the players.

Where did I say I'm against it? My question is where does the needed talent Build for 2026 come from? Not these trades today.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

kyace wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:34 pm Once Mo realized his career in St. Louis was ending his plan was to do as little as possible. This offseason he only tried to trade Arenado. He failed and made no other moves.This trade deadline he only tried to trade the expiring contracts. He signed only one free agent this offseason for one year.
He did not want to have any effect on next year by adding or subtracting from the roster. It’s Bloom team now going forward. Look for moves this off season as Bloom shapes the roster to his liking.

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:36 pm

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:27 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:21 pm We let go the FA's to be. And those with NTCs refused to waive them as we knew all along. We got next to nothing back. How do we now reBUILD the roster?

No.

Why is Nootbaar still here? Why is Gorman still here? Why is Romero still here? Why did we ONLY trade three pretty important pieces of our bullpen and get back mostly lotto tickets? Or dudes with "good peripherals" but who absolutely suck when it comes to the bottom line? Why didn't we address the redundancies that clog this roster up?

I expected no blockbusters. I'm not shocked that we got zero major league talent for TODAY. But crikey, I didn't expect to have to squint so hard to see MLB potential in 5/6ths of who we traded for in the past 24 hours.

+1
This is another half-a**ed clunker from an overrated clown of a POBO. Like Strum, I wasn't expecting top 5 prospects (unless they moved Donnie), but no reason for guys like Nootbaar, Romero, and Nado to still be here. Donnie would have easily got a top 5 prospect. At this point Nado needs to just be waived, dude is toast.

ClassicO wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:24 pm I'm actually ok.
They had to get rid of the main four FAs who had a chance to be traded - Fedde, Matz, Helsely and Maton.
Am I happy with the return? Not at all, but these weren't All-Stars.
Far worse was hanging onto any of them.
Nado and Miles were never going to be traded.

Now CT can turn to hating on Bloom.

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:55 pm Is anyone ever really happy? What is happiness?

Am I satisfied the team moved in the right direction? Yes. For those wanting MASSIVE change it would be difficult when several of the players that should be moved in a real rebuild have NTC and don't want to go. Like Nado and Gray. heck even Contreras could be moved for rebuild eyeing 2027.

But they did what they HAD to do which was get something back for the 4 FA to be pitchers. And did they get anything of value? NO ONE KNOWS. Lets' see if any of them are producing something for league minimum or a bit more in the next 3 -4 years.

As far as this forum is concerned there will always be haters and whiners. Bloom will be scorned as much as Mo was. I've no idea why they follow the Cardinals.

TopofthePerch wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 17:58 pm I think it's clear and obvious that any moves made would only be free agents to be. Any cleaning up the roster would be done when Bloom takes full control over the off season. He should get the rest of the year to determine who he thinks fits this team going forward. Trades of Any outfielders or infielders to clear clutter will be his to make and available during the off season. I really don't understand why posters aren't understanding this.