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Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
by rockondlouie
Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:14 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:00 pm
How can they NOT entertain offers for Donny, Bumbles and Noot?
The least Mo can do is listen (re: entertain) to what they might bring.
He can't be gone soon enough.
Put a good return on the offer and then let them go. If they get desperate you get it. Not willing to even just list the offer to the desperate..what does that cost lol
Just send Mo home, he should've never been allowed to handle this trading deadline.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:22 pm
by rockondlouie
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:12 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:00 pm
How can they NOT entertain offers for Donny, Bumbles and Noot?
The least Mo can do is listen (re: entertain) to what they might bring.
He can't be gone soon enough.
Hes a worthless idiot. So dang lazy.
Sooooooooo lazy, how can you not "entertain" offers for almost any player on the ML roster (sans maybe I. Hererra and Libby?).
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:23 pm
by Clubmaker2
Absolutely..just killing off chance of knocking another year off the now rebuild with youth with some smart acquisitions and not becoming the new pirates team
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
by icon
Mo-Lazy-Asss at "work" again.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
by dugoutrex
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:11 pm
This clears up all questions about how much say Bloom has in this team's decision-making right now.
no it doesn't - some are saying he was in on the Matz trade
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Sorry, but blaming this all on Mo is silly. I'm sure ownership has an interest in trying to make sure that the current team doesn't get so bad that people stop showing up at the ballpark. Same reason that they wouldn't commit to a rebuild in the past or even admit during their press conference last offseason that they'd be reducing payroll until Mo interrupted them and said that they would.
Keep in mind that I agree that it's stupid not to consider trading those guys if you can get something that will improve the team in the future, even if it takes a year or two. But it just doesn't make sense to put the blame solely in Mo.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:32 pm
by blackinkbiz
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Sorry, but blaming this all on Mo is silly. I'm sure ownership has an interest in trying to make sure that the current team doesn't get so bad that people stop showing up at the ballpark.
I know it rained a little bit but did you see how many showed up last night? I honestly don't see how attendance could get any worse.
Ironically, I could almost bet that if both Mo and Oli were gone today, attendance would start increasing tomorrow simply because people would begin to have faith again without those 2 steering the trainwreck. lol
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:32 pm
by rockondlouie
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Sorry, but blaming this all on Mo is silly. I'm sure ownership has an interest in trying to make sure that the current team doesn't get so bad that people stop showing up at the ballpark. Same reason that they wouldn't commit to a rebuild in the past or even admit during their press conference last offseason that they'd be reducing payroll until Mo interrupted them and said that they would.
Keep in mind that I agree that it's stupid not to consider trading those guys if you can get something that will improve the team in the future, even if it takes a year or two. But it just doesn't make sense to put the blame solely in Mo.
Don't be fooled by "tickets sold" ronnie.
I'm there for almost 3/4 games played and the place is EMPTY, last night was a joke.
I haven't seen anything like this since the late 70's when I was a kid.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
by ramfandan
dugoutrex wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:11 pm
This clears up all questions about how much say Bloom has in this team's decision-making right now.
no it doesn't - some are saying he was in on the Matz trade
Made sense as Bloom was with Boston when they drafted Blaze Jordan in Round 3 . I have no more inside than anyone else on here but maybe Mo worked on the Helsley deal simultaneously with Bloom doing the Matz trade due to his familiarity with Boston.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
by Dicktar2023
dugoutrex wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:11 pm
This clears up all questions about how much say Bloom has in this team's decision-making right now.
no it doesn't - some are saying he was in on the Matz trade
Maybe. But desperately clinging to nootbaar, etc. That's all Mo.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:45 pm
by kyace
Bloom should have taken control of this team at the latest July 1st. Leaving Mo in charge to the end of season was a huge mistake
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
by ramfandan
Pretty clear that Mo was in a no-win position here. If he traded more guys away today (besides the expiring contracts ) , I have a feeling he still would have been highly criticized for being 'fleeced' in the deals for a Donovan, Burly, and Nootbaar.
So he was damned if he SOLD more or Damned if he didn't sell enough.
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:48 pm
by Carp4Cy
Aday96 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 12:57 pm
They love being middle of the pack nowadays. Zero creativity from the front office. Either fully go all in or fully sell for once. This organization is just so poorly ran.
What does fully sell even look like, assumming correctly that NTCs will Not be waived in the end?
Who do we get back and does that make us better than the loss of players still under control from this sale?
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:52 pm
by jbrach
CardsBest wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 12:56 pm
Cards need to trade several players they have a log jam between AAA and majors of similar players.
They wait until these players have no value.
so you think it is for sure that if they traded donny and burly and noot they get better players?...stop already...if a trade is offered that improves the team you do it but to trade just to say you made a trade is kind of stupid
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:59 pm
by Jobu's Rum
ramfandan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
Pretty clear that Mo was in a no-win position here. If he traded more guys away today (besides the expiring contracts ) , I have a feeling he still would have been highly criticized for being 'fleeced' in the deals for a Donovan, Burly, and Nootbaar.
So he was damned if he SOLD more or Damned if he didn't sell enough.
If he is a bad GM/POBO thats no ones fault but his own, he has overstayed his welcome
Re: Unbelievable. Why does this organization only take half measures ?
Posted: 31 Jul 2025 13:59 pm
by Sweet Jones
ramfandan wrote: ↑31 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
Pretty clear that Mo was in a no-win position here. If he traded more guys away today (besides the expiring contracts ) , I have a feeling he still would have been highly criticized for being 'fleeced' in the deals for a Donovan, Burly, and Nootbaar.
So he was damned if he SOLD more or Damned if he didn't sell enough.
You nailed it.
At this point, its just whining for the sake of whining.