Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Replace the name Winn for Donovan

Bad idea, very bad.

[renostl]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Why not make a Gorman, Herrera if he can't catch, or Nootbaar expendable?
Perhaps Burleson.
Donovan plays both sides of the ball.
JJ could be a OFer if all of the above can.

Because none of those guys get you jack [shirt] if you trade them.

IF you only trade players that are proven good what do you
have left on the roster? Who takes Donovan's abs?
Put JJ in the OF or 3B, IDK. Didn't seem to hurt Merrill much.

We all understand that trades usually involve giving something
in order to get.

At some point other teams are selling too, for whatever
reason, they are willing to take potential for their player either
because of a redundancy or contract.

You do not need to move all of them but certainly 1 or 2
of that group is moveable. Herrera, Burleson aren't tradeable?
Gorman can't be traded? Nootbaar? They're better than a AA lottery ticket for
the receiving team and also open a roster spot for the Cardinals which
I thought was what this thread was saying wa needed.

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I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Replace the name Winn for Donovan

Nope. Winn is making some plays that even Ozzie could never make from deep in the hole with that rifle arm that is accurate as well. And he only has 3 errors at this late date. Almost unheard of for a SS. And his bat is average and could get a lot better. He's a guy you definitely keep at age 23.

Donovan is tradable with only 2+ years of control left and this tightwad owner unlikely to meet his extension demands.

[renostl]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Replace the name Winn for Donovan

Nope. Winn is making some plays that even Ozzie could never make from deep in the hole with that rifle arm that is accurate as well. And he only has 3 errors at this late date. Almost unheard of for a SS. And his bat is average and could get a lot better. He's a guy you definitely keep at age 23.

Donovan is tradable with only 2+ years of control left and this tightwad owner unlikely to meet his extension demands.

Exactly.
You don't have to trade either but if you have to choose one to go it's BD.
Let JJ take Noots place in LF and come back to the infield when someone leaves.

[Goldfan]

Help me out here
We want to trade one of the ONLY consistent hitters who won a GG???
To replace him with what??? And how does this 1 for 1 swap make team better??
How about add talent to talent

[renostl]

Help me out here
We want to trade one of the ONLY consistent hitters who won a GG???
To replace him with what??? And how does this 1 for 1 swap make team better??
How about add talent to talent

In my POV,

There are a few players on the team that JJ could be significantly better
than. Making the team better. It will be difficult for JJ to be significantly better
than BD especially his first year or two.

[BrockFloodMaris]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

I’d rather have JJ & Donnie up the middle than Winn and JJ.

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I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

I’d rather have JJ & Donnie up the middle than Winn and JJ.

The big issue with Donovan is control and free agency in 2+ years. BDW Jr. isn't likely to sign off on a costly extension when his No. 1 goal seems to be reducing payroll. So you keep Donovan for 2+ more years that are likely not to be that competitive and let him walk into free agency or trade him for the value of those 2+ years when the team is looking to compete for real again in 2027 and beyond.

[Goldfan]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

I’d rather have JJ & Donnie up the middle than Winn and JJ.

The obvious dead weight in the infield is at 3b…..NA offers this team nothing and is probably a negative.
1b WC
2b JJ
SS Winn
3b Donny

[OregonRedbird]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

I’d rather have JJ & Donnie up the middle than Winn and JJ.

The obvious dead weight in the infield is at 3b…..NA offers this team nothing and is probably a negative.
1b WC
2b JJ
SS Winn
3b Donny

Totally agree.

[Vacardfan1964]

With the present state of the organization, I feel that you have to listen to offers on all players. I just don't want Mozeliak making the trade.

[Vacardfan1964]

With the present state of the organization, I feel that you have to listen to offers on all players. I just don't want Mozeliak making the trade.

[hugeCardfan]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Why? There are a lot of positions.

[imetsatchelpaige]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

No, it has not. Remind me again, how much time this guy spent in the major proving himself? His “emergence“ has been in AAA.
How many Fabergé eggs of the Cardinals have you seen go belly up and pop in the sun, or are you a relatively new fan?

[Swuhgen]

I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Of course not.
If we’ve learned anything from this franchise is that minor league success rarely turns into major league success.

They can sign Donovan and still have a place for JJ.

[HorseTrader]

How long will you all be happy with Donovan's "power" at 3B? Not long would be my guess.