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Who's more vulnerable to the strikeout? Burleson or Scott. Too many just don't value Burleson's amazing bat to ball skill.JDW wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:52 pm Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.
Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.
So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.
Burly is way overrated by some on CT.JDW wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:52 pm Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.
Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.
So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.
Exactly what I thought upon reading the title.Mr Buttercup wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 20:52 pm Doesn't a player have to first establish himself, before he can re-establish himself?
Do you really think that MLB players aren't hitting the ball as hard as they can?Shady wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 11:13 am Showing more power at the #3 spot in the lineup. Contreras has kind of "picked it up a little". It's time for Burly and Herrera to show more power in order for this offense to have more production. Obviously, the same for Arenado. Not sure, if much more can be expected from him these days.
And Burly is way underrated by some on CT. The Cardinals seem to know what a production/salary value they have in Burleson.icon wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 20:37 pmBurly is way overrated by some on CT.JDW wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:52 pm Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.
Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.
So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.
he plays 1b and OF.. who's he blocking?Barrys_head wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:24 am If there is one player who is blocking, and will continue to block, younger players it's Burly. He is a player without a position.
Who's more vulnerable to the gidp? Which is the worst out, a gidp or a K? Gidp's kill a lot of innings, aka pitcher's best friend.Shady wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 20:02 pmWho's more vulnerable to the strikeout? Burleson or Scott. Too many just don't value Burleson's amazing bat to ball skill.JDW wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:52 pm Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.
Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.
So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.