It's time for Burleson to re-establsh himself

[Shady]

Burleson has untapped power potential. At only 26. I feel he'll up the power production.

[dugoutrex]

I would trade Burleson ASAP!

Donovan has an overall better tool bag

donny runs a little better but burly has a little more pop - they are essentially the same dude

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Burly with a clutch HR today down 7-0.

K'd 3 times last night in a tight game.

[OregonRedbird]

Burly is a keeper, he can hit and will get better and power-up. Don't see him as the defensive liability many do.

Donovan and Winn are also untouchable, in my opinion. An infield of JJ, Donovan, Winn and Contreras works for me.

We have many players that are allegedly available and should be moved, but better to leave Burly, Winn and Donovan alone.

[JDW]

Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.

Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.

So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.

[Shady]

Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.

Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.

So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.

Who's more vulnerable to the strikeout? Burleson or Scott. Too many just don't value Burleson's amazing bat to ball skill.

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Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.

Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.

So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.

Burly is way overrated by some on CT.

[Mr Buttercup]

Doesn't a player have to first establish himself, before he can re-establish himself?

[AnExParrot]

Doesn't a player have to first establish himself, before he can re-establish himself?

Exactly what I thought upon reading the title.

[cardsrmyteam]

Burly is at the top of his game. Him and Donny are outperforming any and ALL expectations. It is time to cash in on them and move them before things change.

[jw0595]

Showing more power at the #3 spot in the lineup. Contreras has kind of "picked it up a little". It's time for Burly and Herrera to show more power in order for this offense to have more production. Obviously, the same for Arenado. Not sure, if much more can be expected from him these days.

Do you really think that MLB players aren't hitting the ball as hard as they can?

[Barrys_head]

If there is one player who is blocking, and will continue to block, younger players it's Burly. He is a player without a position.

[Shady]

Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.

Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.

So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.

Burly is way overrated by some on CT.

And Burly is way underrated by some on CT. The Cardinals seem to know what a production/salary value they have in Burleson.

[moose-and-squirrel]

If there is one player who is blocking, and will continue to block, younger players it's Burly. He is a player without a position.

he plays 1b and OF.. who's he blocking?

[Futuregm2]

Burly with a clutch HR today down 7-0.

K'd 3 times last night in a tight game.

And he hit into a double play early in yesterday’s game.

[JDW]

Kinda funny how some see Burly as a good offensive player while they also view VS2 currently as a bad offensive player.
So before all the newer metrics were out, many of us used to add runs scored with Rbi's minus Home runs hit to come up with an offensive number we used to measure players against each other.

Burly in 323 AB's before todays game with 34 runs + 44 RBI's minus 12 HR's = 66 and a +1.2 bWAR.
VS2 in 308 AB's with 45 runs +33 RBI's minus 5 HR's = 73 and a bWAR of +1.8.

So who's the more valuable offensive player here? One hits 9th, one currently hits 3rd.
Burly also is vulnerable to the gidp which imo makes him a better fit somewhere around 6th in the order than 3rd. Gidp's not only reduce Burly's offensive totals but also reduces other players stats with less opportunities for runs scored and RBI's when he gidp's.

Who's more vulnerable to the strikeout? Burleson or Scott. Too many just don't value Burleson's amazing bat to ball skill.

Who's more vulnerable to the gidp? Which is the worst out, a gidp or a K? Gidp's kill a lot of innings, aka pitcher's best friend.
That said, AB's done good for who he is, but his best fit might be as a platoon player instead of an everyday guy. He might also be a much more productive in a hitter friendly ballpark for half his games, as his power is decent, but a little on the warning track side in STL.
Earlier I've wondered on here what OPS it'd take for Burly to be a productive starter. At a .800 OPS like now he's in the range of about a +1.5 to +2 bWAR guy. That's not starter material imo with his lack of being able to play a key position. Now IF he could be a .850 OPS hitter, he would be a viably good starter for a team and could be a +3 bWAR type player.