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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:05 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 13:07 pm Well, he played himself into this situation.

There are ways to convey the message that he is done here.

Nobody wants to be somewhere where they aren't wanted.

The threat of the bench usually does that.

His no trade list would dramatically increase this offseason.

And no one will still want him. Good luck signing FAs if you treat them poorly

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:18 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:05 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 13:07 pm Well, he played himself into this situation.

There are ways to convey the message that he is done here.

Nobody wants to be somewhere where they aren't wanted.

The threat of the bench usually does that.

His no trade list would dramatically increase this offseason.

And no one will still want him. Good luck signing FAs if you treat them poorly

No other player or agent will give a darn about the Arenado situation

Get over that thought, the employer always has the final say

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:05 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 13:07 pm Well, he played himself into this situation.

There are ways to convey the message that he is done here.

Nobody wants to be somewhere where they aren't wanted.

The threat of the bench usually does that.

His no trade list would dramatically increase this offseason.

And no one will still want him. Good luck signing FAs if you treat them poorly

Cusecards wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:28 pm They’ll certainly miss his defense but not his bat.
Gorman needs to play every day along with Walker.
Need to get a read on them both heading to the offseason.

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 15:31 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 14:28 pm They’ll certainly miss his defense but not his bat.
Gorman needs to play every day along with Walker.
Need to get a read on them both heading to the offseason.

What do you think you’ll learn from either of those guys that you don’t already know? They are more of the same. We’ve seen it all before, multiple times. Are you ever thrilled when you see their name on the line up card? Maybe you just say ”oh hell no, more of this?”. It really is maddening to see so many get so many chances and then for us to have so little to show for it. They call up Walker and then send him down because he hits too many ground balls? They didn’t know that while he was in the minors?

greyhawk wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:59 am I understand he doesn't want to leave and is going to invoke his no trade clause --- but what is to stop the cardinals from saying 'ok fine' you can stay but we want to see what we have in JJW and are going to bring him up and play him at 3rd. So if you invoke your ntc you will become a bench piece for the rest of this season. Anyone think this might cause him to reconsider? Does anyone think DeWitt/Moronzelak have the brass to make such a move?

AtillaTheBlue1 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 16:25 pm

greyhawk wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:59 am I understand he doesn't want to leave and is going to invoke his no trade clause --- but what is to stop the cardinals from saying 'ok fine' you can stay but we want to see what we have in JJW and are going to bring him up and play him at 3rd. So if you invoke your ntc you will become a bench piece for the rest of this season. Anyone think this might cause him to reconsider? Does anyone think DeWitt/Moronzelak have the brass to make such a move?

put him on waivers

He and Gray are terrible players to be around kids. They play for pay checks, not to win.

Both should of been telling stl to find them a team who can win it all, and get a deal done. But neither cares about winning, they are happy with the way its going and cashing those pay checks.

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 12:03 pm No. If Nado is on your team you play him. He's still highly regarded by his teammates. You cant insult and embarrass him and expect to hold the respect in the clubhouse.

dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 12:34 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 12:30 pm The difference between MLB and the NFL is the NFL would make that move to bench an old quarterback in favor of an up-and-coming QB. It seems in the Majors the salary plays.

in the NFL you can just cut someone and stop paying them

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 12:03 pm No. If Nado is on your team you play him. He's still highly regarded by his teammates. You cant insult and embarrass him and expect to hold the respect in the clubhouse.