Yes. He's not the future, to align with the Cards future. But it's got to be a great prospect or MLB playerstlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!
Astros looking for LHH who can play 2B/LF
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We have a $100 million payroll next year. There is good pitching available this offseason.
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Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
Re: Astros looking for LHH who can play 2B/LF
Available…..and getting them to come to Stl are two very different issues…Midrange Jay wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 18:32 pmWe have a $100 million payroll next year. There is good pitching available this offseason.
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+ 1,000stlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!
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Who’s to say that if he was surrounded by better players, he wouldn’t be a better player? You don’t trade your best player on a player or two who you. “ Hope. “ will be good players! That does sound like something Mo would do though, it would lower the payroll even more!45s wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 19:43 pm Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
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I’d see if they were interested in Prieto! I’m only slightly kidding!
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It is pretty much how Tampa and MIL do business and it works for them. There are no guarantees in life and dealing Donovan might net two guys who are stars with team control for 6 years. Or might get two or more duds. The point is that Donovan alone can not raise this ship and by the time enough talent arrives he will be gone anyway. But opinions differ.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:17 pmWho’s to say that if he was surrounded by better players, he wouldn’t be a better player? You don’t trade your best player on a player or two who you. “ Hope. “ will be good players! That does sound like something Mo would do though, it would lower the payroll even more!45s wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 19:43 pm Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
I do not expect them to trade Donovan anyway. Not the way STL does business. Then again they should have traded Fedde and Helsley last December and didn't and now Fedde has zero value and Helsley less value.
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Depends on the return. Have to be open for business.
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I agree, some players should have been moved this off season, it’s just mind boggling how the Cardinals couldn’t see this.AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:30 pmIt is pretty much how Tampa and MIL do business and it works for them. There are no guarantees in life and dealing Donovan might net two guys who are stars with team control for 6 years. Or might get two or more duds. The point is that Donovan alone can not raise this ship and by the time enough talent arrives he will be gone anyway. But opinions differ.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:17 pmWho’s to say that if he was surrounded by better players, he wouldn’t be a better player? You don’t trade your best player on a player or two who you. “ Hope. “ will be good players! That does sound like something Mo would do though, it would lower the payroll even more!45s wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 19:43 pm Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
I do not expect them to trade Donovan anyway. Not the way STL does business. Then again they should have traded Fedde and Helsley last December and didn't and now Fedde has zero value and Helsley less value.
I just don’t agree about Donovan being traded. He doesn’t really do anything great, but he doesn’t do anything poorly either. He has a chance to lead the league in hits and average, and could be in the running for another gold glove, so those aren’t anything to sneeze at!
I’d subtract players not doing their parts, not the ones who are.
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Re: Astros looking for LHH who can play 2B/LF
As I said opinions differ. I can see why people want to keep him. If I thought STL had a chance to compete next year I'd say keep him. Sadly I do not see that barring some amazing improvements in the pitching staff and growth in the hitters. But who knows. Anyway I do hope they can move Matz, Maton and Helsley for some prospects that could be contributors by 2027. That is the year I am thinking they could start to make a move. Of course it depends on a lot including will the team open the coffers back up to the previous $180 mil level. They WILL need to replace some veteran talent aging out and leaving end of contracts.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:38 pmI agree, some players should have been moved this off season, it’s just mind boggling how the Cardinals couldn’t see this.AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:30 pmIt is pretty much how Tampa and MIL do business and it works for them. There are no guarantees in life and dealing Donovan might net two guys who are stars with team control for 6 years. Or might get two or more duds. The point is that Donovan alone can not raise this ship and by the time enough talent arrives he will be gone anyway. But opinions differ.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:17 pmWho’s to say that if he was surrounded by better players, he wouldn’t be a better player? You don’t trade your best player on a player or two who you. “ Hope. “ will be good players! That does sound like something Mo would do though, it would lower the payroll even more!45s wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 19:43 pm Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
I do not expect them to trade Donovan anyway. Not the way STL does business. Then again they should have traded Fedde and Helsley last December and didn't and now Fedde has zero value and Helsley less value.
I just don’t agree about Donovan being traded. He doesn’t really do anything great, but he doesn’t do anything poorly either. He has a chance to lead the league in hits and average, and could be in the running for another gold glove, so those aren’t anything to sneeze at!
I’d subtract players not doing their parts, not the ones who are.
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I agree, DeWitt does need to increase the payroll back up and fill the holes on this team. They need a proven run producer, and lots of pitching!AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:46 pmAs I said opinions differ. I can see why people want to keep him. If I thought STL had a chance to compete next year I'd say keep him. Sadly I do not see that barring some amazing improvements in the pitching staff and growth in the hitters. But who knows. Anyway I do hope they can move Matz, Maton and Helsley for some prospects that could be contributors by 2027. That is the year I am thinking they could start to make a move. Of course it depends on a lot including will the team open the coffers back up to the previous $180 mil level. They WILL need to replace some veteran talent aging out and leaving end of contracts.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:38 pmI agree, some players should have been moved this off season, it’s just mind boggling how the Cardinals couldn’t see this.AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:30 pmIt is pretty much how Tampa and MIL do business and it works for them. There are no guarantees in life and dealing Donovan might net two guys who are stars with team control for 6 years. Or might get two or more duds. The point is that Donovan alone can not raise this ship and by the time enough talent arrives he will be gone anyway. But opinions differ.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 20:17 pmWho’s to say that if he was surrounded by better players, he wouldn’t be a better player? You don’t trade your best player on a player or two who you. “ Hope. “ will be good players! That does sound like something Mo would do though, it would lower the payroll even more!45s wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 19:43 pm Some don’t want to trade Donavan….on the premise that he is their best player..
Well…he is their best player this year and the club is struggling to be .500.
A good player surrounded by mediocrity is not as valuable as what he might bring in a trade..
The clock is ticking on team control…..he will never be as valuable in the trade market as he is now.
I do not expect them to trade Donovan anyway. Not the way STL does business. Then again they should have traded Fedde and Helsley last December and didn't and now Fedde has zero value and Helsley less value.
I just don’t agree about Donovan being traded. He doesn’t really do anything great, but he doesn’t do anything poorly either. He has a chance to lead the league in hits and average, and could be in the running for another gold glove, so those aren’t anything to sneeze at!
I’d subtract players not doing their parts, not the ones who are.
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I'd agree 100% if he were 25\26 years old or if they were a year away. But, neither is the case so if a team is in love with him and wants to back up the proverbial truck, happy trails, thanks for the memories and best of luck to you (except when you play the Cards)!stlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!
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This. Trade Donny, if we trade him, for a proven player with control. Or maybe Spencer Jones. But we'd need more in return for an AS with control.Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:23 pmProbably the only guy I'd not trade. Now, if they made and offer we couldn't refuse I'd listen, but we've been snookered too many times lately. I don't trust Cards to evaluate talent, especially unproven talent.stlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!
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We could and should be a year away if Bloom makes the right moves. Keep trading everyone we develop for 50 grade low A prospects and we become the Pirates - forever 2 years away from a 2 year plan.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 21:04 pmI'd agree 100% if he were 25\26 years old or if they were a year away. But, neither is the case so if a team is in love with him and wants to back up the proverbial truck, happy trails, thanks for the memories and best of luck to you (except when you play the Cards)!stlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!
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I hope you're right. Truly. I don't think you are, however.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 21:31 pmWe could and should be a year away if Bloom makes the right moves. Keep trading everyone we develop for 50 grade low A prospects and we become the Pirates - forever 2 years away from a 2 year plan.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 21:04 pmI'd agree 100% if he were 25\26 years old or if they were a year away. But, neither is the case so if a team is in love with him and wants to back up the proverbial truck, happy trails, thanks for the memories and best of luck to you (except when you play the Cards)!stlbirdlover wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 16:17 pm So you want to send our best player whom is in the prime of his career away. Great way to build for the future!