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This afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
Alex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
No, he didn't say that. I pretty much posted my interpretation.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:21 pmAlex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 13:17 pm I don't think they're shutting him down yet, but yes, if you know anything about Liberatore, then you know that he pitched about 145 innings in 2022, about 125 innings in 2023, and then 86 innings last year. He's at 100 innings now, so you have to be careful with him at this point, so they are apparently looking to give him some rest moving forward.
Of course, they could have done that earlier this season with a 6 man rotation, but that never happened. He was always due to hit a wall at some point due to the innings increase from last year, so not sure why they weren't a bit more proactive, but here we are.
But yea, unless a team wants to trade for them, that's probably going to mean that Fedde and Mikolas are going to continue to get starts. Someone has to fill the innings. I'd rather have them starting games in a losing season than blow out Liberatore's arm just to get him to throw some more innings.
+1 Bernie said the same thing he’s already surpassed all of his innings last season. That’s the problem with them jerking him between rotation and bulllpen since calling him up. The innings catch up to themokcardfan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 12:40 pm On Sunday's postgame, Al Hrab said Libby's velocity and success had declined in his last eight starts, and mgt decided to give him a break. Al noted that Libby is on pace for the most innings ever, and the rest might be good now. In fact, Al said maybe they should have done this earlier, when it became apparent Libby's speed had declined. (Almost an open criticism of the decision-making!)
nailed it An Old FriendAn Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 13:23 pmThe answer to “why” is always Mozeliak. What a disaster and absolute liability he became to this organization.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 13:17 pm I don't think they're shutting him down yet, but yes, if you know anything about Liberatore, then you know that he pitched about 145 innings in 2022, about 125 innings in 2023, and then 86 innings last year. He's at 100 innings now, so you have to be careful with him at this point, so they are apparently looking to give him some rest moving forward.
Of course, they could have done that earlier this season with a 6 man rotation, but that never happened. He was always due to hit a wall at some point due to the innings increase from last year, so not sure why they weren't a bit more proactive, but here we are.
But yea, unless a team wants to trade for them, that's probably going to mean that Fedde and Mikolas are going to continue to get starts. Someone has to fill the innings. I'd rather have them starting games in a losing season than blow out Liberatore's arm just to get him to throw some more innings.
Here is what Alex Coil actually said:craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:21 pmAlex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
He did not convey any specific information about the current injury.Roby is on the injured list down here . . . His problem his entire professional career has been staying off the injured list, and he is back on that now with what should not be, necessarily, a long term injury but you never know every time he gets on there.
thanks, NYCards....good to see you again!!NYCardsFan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 18:49 pmHere is what Alex Coil actually said:craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:21 pmAlex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
He did not convey any specific information about the current injury.Roby is on the injured list down here . . . His problem his entire professional career has been staying off the injured list, and he is back on that now with what should not be, necessarily, a long term injury but you never know every time he gets on there.
https://www.youtube.com/live/6hCO3VTQ0- ... hUg&t=3015
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 18:49 pmHere is what Alex Coil actually said:craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:21 pmAlex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
He did not convey any specific information about the current injury.Roby is on the injured list down here . . . His problem his entire professional career has been staying off the injured list, and he is back on that now with what should not be, necessarily, a long term injury but you never know every time he gets on there.
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Thanks for clarifying. It's still fairly encouraging about the Roby injury situation.
Indeed.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 19:26 pmthanks, NYCards....good to see you again!!NYCardsFan wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 18:49 pmHere is what Alex Coil actually said:craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:21 pmAlex said that Roby would be back tomorrow? Or is this you being hopeful?Shady wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:14 pmThis afternoon on a popular St Louis area sports station. Lots of good things to say regarding Wetherholt.craviduce wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:04 pmand when did Alex say that?
I hope he's back, too...I hope this just a scheduled shut down to watch his innings....but we've been told nothing
He did not convey any specific information about the current injury.Roby is on the injured list down here . . . His problem his entire professional career has been staying off the injured list, and he is back on that now with what should not be, necessarily, a long term injury but you never know every time he gets on there.
https://www.youtube.com/live/6hCO3VTQ0- ... hUg&t=3015
Busy summer?
Well, yea. Two games over .500 in late July is a losing season to me. There's two months left, so I guess miracles could happen, but is there anything about the team that would give you the confidence that such a thing is possible? Call it giving up or whatever, but we've seen this team over the past 3 years. Nothing has changed except for stars leaving and getting older, starting pitching staying bad, and young players that you want to see taking steps forward taking steps backwards. There's a few exceptions, but that's generally it. So I don't expect some big comeback.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:26 pmLosing season? We are 2 games over .500 with over 2 months left. Man, people give up so easily!
I've been warning about this since May or so. He was always going to hit a wall this year because of how he was handled the last few years. Can you imagine how this year might look for him if he would have just stayed in a normal starter track the past 3 years?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 17:28 pm +1 Bernie said the same thing he’s already surpassed all of his innings last season. That’s the problem with them jerking him between rotation and bulllpen since calling him up. The innings catch up to them
What do Fedde and Gray have to do with the conversation?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 07:42 am McGreevy just up from the minors threw 91 pitches yesterday. Earlier in the season he threw 100. Fedde threw a complete game 110 pitches with a 10 run lead. Gray was left in the game 2nd game from the all star break despite the fact something was clearly wrong with him.
If the goal is to save arms Marmol didn't get the email.