What’s more important in war…a great General or Bureaucrat?
Ridiculous
Fair enough. You have made good suggestions on player acquisitions, any ideas on the man who will lead them? Or do you think Oli still deserves more time? Or do you think Manager is generally a non-factor?
You can only play the hand your dealt. I don't see agregious errors by Oli, but when he had a solid team, he won the NL Central.
I'm not for or against him
I'm good with whatever decision the team makes in manager
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
Lot of talk/hope about Bloom sweeping away Mo's mess and improving the team going forward. If this is to happen, the single most important decision will not be in player personnel but the manager. For those who think I'm Oli-hating, note I didn't say he can't be the choice.
Execs look at the same data as an avid fan. Statistics, box scores, results, combine skill performance, etc. We all see it because this is not an overly complicated game. Managers, however, are in the trenches both strategically and in creating and maintaing a proper and professional culture of respect and competition. This skillset requires something that can't be faked and shortcomings can't be hidden. True leadership ability.
New, cutting edge technologies are available to every team and only offer short-term advantages. Of course there are teams who won't pay to keep up, because they are cheap, which is on the owner. When the draft comes around, every team's board would look much the same if not for owner spending preference on slot money.
There is a reason the Reds have passed us in the standings, and it's because their POBO paid an experienced and proven manager to lead them. It didn't take some out of the box stroke of genius. Who is our right guy for Manager? Is he already on staff? This is Bloom's most critical and important decision.
Even if he and ownership aren't the best, they can be compensated for by a great Manager. It appears TLR helped prop Mo up as the first half of his career was a lot more successful than the second half.
Good post ! Francona is certainly an experienced manager and had a previous good overall record. In the Brewers case, Craig Counsell had been a fixture there and wildly praised for doing an excellent job year to year with a small payroll of talent there. Counsell though wanted the 'big bucks' and owner Attansio was not going to cough up close to $8 M for his manager per year. The Brewers GM Arnold did go with a proven manager to succeed Counsell . Murphy had baseball experience as Notre Dame manager and Counsells bench coach but no 'proven manager' label , yet Murphy hired internally . You don't know til the guy is in there sometimes.
That’s why I didn’t judge Oli too soon because you don’t know until they have time to make a difference. Mo has always gone with a rookie manager since TLR departed and it hasn’t seemed to pay off yet.
John Mozeliak is scared of established managers. Don Tony intimidated him. The thought of Molina being on staff terrified him.
Correct. Tony damaged his ego, badly. And even despite a 2011 WS title he made a promise to himself he would never allow it to happen again. Good or bad all decisions had to be his idea and his only. And good or bad any “suggestions” made by anyone else was grounds for termination.
What’s more important in war…a great General or Bureaucrat?
Ridiculous
Fair enough. You have made good suggestions on player acquisitions, any ideas on the man who will lead them? Or do you think Oli still deserves more time? Or do you think Manager is generally a non-factor?
You can only play the hand your dealt. I don't see agregious errors by Oli, but when he had a solid team, he won the NL Central.
I'm not for or against him
I'm good with whatever decision the team makes in manager
Fair assessment. Im not an oli fan. But would be interesting to see what he could do without Mozeliak's presence.
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 14:42 pm
John Mozeliak is scared of established managers. Don Tony intimidated him. The thought of Molina being on staff terrified him.
I’ve wondered the same thing. Maybe if he didn’t get promoted at the same time he started picking managers he would had a more focused approach and chosen more wisely. Maybe over-rewarded too soon.
I dont think he over rewarded. I think he wanted "his" guys who were inexperienced and had no power to push back. Shildt thought he had some stroke with a MOY award. Mo ended that thought.
What’s more important in war…a great General or Bureaucrat?
What's more important, a great general or arms industry?
As it pertains to winning? The general. Making money? The industry. I realize it’s a business, but maybe the baseball and marketing side should be lead by different entities to avoid conflict.
What’s more important in war…a great General or Bureaucrat?
Ridiculous
Fair enough. You have made good suggestions on player acquisitions, any ideas on the man who will lead them? Or do you think Oli still deserves more time? Or do you think Manager is generally a non-factor?
You can only play the hand your dealt. I don't see agregious errors by Oli, but when he had a solid team, he won the NL Central.
I'm not for or against him
I'm good with whatever decision the team makes in manager
Fair assessment. Im not an oli fan. But would be interesting to see what he could do without Mozeliak's presence.
Betting you’re glad Mo isn’t picking the next guy lol. If there is a next guy.
What’s more important in war…a great General or Bureaucrat?
Ridiculous
Fair enough. You have made good suggestions on player acquisitions, any ideas on the man who will lead them? Or do you think Oli still deserves more time? Or do you think Manager is generally a non-factor?
You can only play the hand your dealt. I don't see agregious errors by Oli, but when he had a solid team, he won the NL Central.
I'm not for or against him
I'm good with whatever decision the team makes in manager
Fair assessment. Im not an oli fan. But would be interesting to see what he could do without Mozeliak's presence.
Betting you’re glad Mo isn’t picking the next guy lol. If there is a next guy.
