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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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he does read CT ... just to laugh at ME ville like the rest of us :)
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I agree with you. Overall fan perception does mean something to them, and this is a tiny fraction of it.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I’ll disagree a bit. All high level orgs have a public relations section. One of their jobs is to get info out to the public reference said org. Another is to monitor the public’s reaction. How else would you know if they were effective?

The degree of involvement is the point here.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I agree with you. Overall fan perception does mean something to them, and this is a tiny fraction of it.
Other Cardinal sites are much more important -
The Cardinal Nation, Viva El Birdos, Red Bird Rants, etc. They offer a lot more than just a little forum.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I’ll disagree a bit. All high level orgs have a public relations section. One of their jobs is to get info out to the public reference said org. Another is to monitor the public’s reaction. How else would you know if they were effective?

The degree of involvement is the point here.
Considering the Cardinals’ public image over the last few years has fallen off a cliff, they might want to try a different approach.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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desertrat23 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:46 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I’ll disagree a bit. All high level orgs have a public relations section. One of their jobs is to get info out to the public reference said org. Another is to monitor the public’s reaction. How else would you know if they were effective?

The degree of involvement is the point here.
Considering the Cardinals’ public image over the last few years has fallen off a cliff, they might want to try a different approach.
I assure you they track what the public thinks about their performance as an org based predominantly on player performance. Then they want to know their reaction to monies and deals. Why not, gotta measure your efforts somehow.

Again the degree of involvement is in my mind the missing link.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I agree with you. Overall fan perception does mean something to them, and this is a tiny fraction of it.
I'm with you and Cranny. The lunatic fringe is not the best source for a small sample. Ticket sales say a lot...CT irrelevant.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Jul 2025 14:09 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I agree with you. Overall fan perception does mean something to them, and this is a tiny fraction of it.
I'm with you and Cranny. The lunatic fringe is not the best source for a small sample. Ticket sales say a lot...CT irrelevant.
I dunno…ticket sales seem to be aligning with the overwhelming sentiment around here.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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desertrat23 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Jul 2025 14:09 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I agree with you. Overall fan perception does mean something to them, and this is a tiny fraction of it.
I'm with you and Cranny. The lunatic fringe is not the best source for a small sample. Ticket sales say a lot...CT irrelevant.
I dunno…ticket sales seem to be aligning with the overwhelming sentiment around here.
For sure, it’s just there is a general negative sentiment here every year. The normal, less obsessive fanbase seems to have caught up. I wouldn’t use the diehards as a reliable demographic.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I’ll disagree a bit. All high level orgs have a public relations section. One of their jobs is to get info out to the public reference said org. Another is to monitor the public’s reaction. How else would you know if they were effective?

The degree of involvement is the point here.
There are many other marketing ways to get fan reaction besides this little forum.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:22 pm
Banner29 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:24 pm Also Mo if you are reading this please check this out

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How childish.
Here comes Mos little forum wiener to save the day…
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Banner29 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:24 pm Also Mo if you are reading this please check this out

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:D you'll be chastised by the front office (donkey) kissers who [fork]ing live on this site and have 1 job...to protect DeTwit and Mo-ran!
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 14:26 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
zbasspro wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 20 Jul 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
Do you actually think the POBO of a major MLB franchise might read this little forum? That’s a good
one! LOL.
I would guess they have someone monitoring most social media sites to gauge fan perception. Granted it was 20 years ago, but Dave Duncan used to get upset over things posted here. This site had a much bigger share of the thought posting back then.
This forum means nothing to those in charge.
I’ll disagree a bit. All high level orgs have a public relations section. One of their jobs is to get info out to the public reference said org. Another is to monitor the public’s reaction. How else would you know if they were effective?

The degree of involvement is the point here.
There are many other marketing ways to get fan reaction besides this little forum.
What are these other marketing venues that will produce a fan reaction board, and it may be a little forum, but it still gets a look. That’s my point. Too a certain degree.
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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dugoutrex wrote: 20 Jul 2025 13:31 pm he does read CT ... just to laugh at ME ville like the rest of us :)
As everyone and everyone alone can see!
Easy
Obvious
Correct
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Re: If Mozeliak checks out Cards Talk he needs to read this

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Shady wrote: 20 Jul 2025 10:31 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/so ... b646&ei=10
Ideally, somehow, get Gray, Arenado and Contreras to waive their NTCs. At least list the teams they'd accept a trade to. Like Arenado did. Actually, get him to expand that. Along with moving Helsley, Fedde and Nootbaar. Then build for the future. I wouldn't mind hanging on to Contreras through his contract, however, if Mo could get a very good return for him, Burleson would be fine at 1B for a few years.
If he checks out CT, he needs his head examined. But at least the glories of you getting attention remains life affirming.
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