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Melville wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:26 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

1. Fire The Marmot and entire staff - disgraceful how unprepared the team is to play baseball.
2. Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar (3 years too late), Herrera (yes, I am right about this as well - he is not who many have been fooled into believing and the time to move him is now, when other organizations may be equally fooled), and Walker.
3. If N/A refuses to be traded again, let him know he is the 26th man on the roster and play him accordingly.
4. Enter 2026 with an outfield of Donovan in LF, Scott in CF (on a short leash), and Burleson in RF - and add a high quality ASG level RH bat to the mix.
5. Gorman, Winn, Wetherholt, Saggese to handle 3B/22/2B.
6. Contreras at 1B.
7. Pages / Pozo return - but being pushed by Crooks (Note: if STL's reported interest in Murphy is real, it might be worth investigating further - I can provide the added perfect analysis later in the thread if requested).
8. Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy can make up 3 of the 5 rotation spots for 2026, but the team will need to add 2 more arms (one of which could be acquired this month from Miami).
9. Mathews should be ready to take some turns in the #6 rotation spot and Doyle should be on track for some time in 2027.
Bottom line.
The team is ridiculously easy to fix.
I could do so in less than 30 days - as could anyone who understands this game.
All that is required is the intelligence and the will.
Mo possesses neither.
We shall see if Bloom does.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:22 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:17 am No mention of Herrera or Liberatore. Where do they fit in your scenario?

If I didn’t mention them, then I figure they can move. I simply for got about Libby and IH as I got fixated on defense positions.

You are correct. Libby McG Pallante Doyle

Herrera DH

Donovan Winn Scott.

Young cornerstones.

bondguy wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:48 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:22 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:17 am No mention of Herrera or Liberatore. Where do they fit in your scenario?

If I didn’t mention them, then I figure they can move. I simply for got about Libby and IH as I got fixated on defense positions.

You are correct. Libby McG Pallante Doyle

Herrera DH

Donovan Winn Scott.

Young cornerstones.

I'm not sold on Scott and his .640 OPS. Based on fWAR, he's the 3rd best defensive CFer, but the 4th worst hitter.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

Cranny wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:37 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

Good, logical post.

Melville wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:26 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

1. Fire The Marmot and entire staff - disgraceful how unprepared the team is to play baseball.
2. Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar (3 years too late), Herrera (yes, I am right about this as well - he is not who many have been fooled into believing and the time to move him is now, when other organizations may be equally fooled), and Walker.
3. If N/A refuses to be traded again, let him know he is the 26th man on the roster and play him accordingly.
4. Enter 2026 with an outfield of Donovan in LF, Scott in CF (on a short leash), and Burleson in RF - and add a high quality ASG level RH bat to the mix.
5. Gorman, Winn, Wetherholt, Saggese to handle 3B/22/2B.
6. Contreras at 1B.
7. Pages / Pozo return - but being pushed by Crooks (Note: if STL's reported interest in Murphy is real, it might be worth investigating further - I can provide the added perfect analysis later in the thread if requested).
8. Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy can make up 3 of the 5 rotation spots for 2026, but the team will need to add 2 more arms (one of which could be acquired this month from Miami).
9. Mathews should be ready to take some turns in the #6 rotation spot and Doyle should be on track for some time in 2027.
Bottom line.
The team is ridiculously easy to fix.
I could do so in less than 30 days - as could anyone who understands this game.
All that is required is the intelligence and the will.
Mo possesses neither.
We shall see if Bloom does.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:22 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 08:17 am No mention of Herrera or Liberatore. Where do they fit in your scenario?

If I didn’t mention them, then I figure they can move. I simply for got about Libby and IH as I got fixated on defense positions.

You are correct. Libby McG Pallante Doyle

Herrera DH

Donovan Winn Scott.

Young cornerstones.

Bully4you wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:37 am

Melville wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:26 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.


First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

1. Fire The Marmot and entire staff - disgraceful how unprepared the team is to play baseball.
2. Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar (3 years too late), Herrera (yes, I am right about this as well - he is not who many have been fooled into believing and the time to move him is now, when other organizations may be equally fooled), and Walker.
3. If N/A refuses to be traded again, let him know he is the 26th man on the roster and play him accordingly.
4. Enter 2026 with an outfield of Donovan in LF, Scott in CF (on a short leash), and Burleson in RF - and add a high quality ASG level RH bat to the mix.
5. Gorman, Winn, Wetherholt, Saggese to handle 3B/22/2B.
6. Contreras at 1B.
7. Pages / Pozo return - but being pushed by Crooks (Note: if STL's reported interest in Murphy is real, it might be worth investigating further - I can provide the added perfect analysis later in the thread if requested).
8. Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy can make up 3 of the 5 rotation spots for 2026, but the team will need to add 2 more arms (one of which could be acquired this month from Miami).
9. Mathews should be ready to take some turns in the #6 rotation spot and Doyle should be on track for some time in 2027.
Bottom line.
The team is ridiculously easy to fix.
I could do so in less than 30 days - as could anyone who understands this game.
All that is required is the intelligence and the will.
Mo possesses neither.
We shall see if Bloom does.

The changes you outlined won't cut it Mel.
That team won't win squat again in 2026.
It's a continued rebuild, that's about it.
Which if they don't want to spend may be all that can be done.
I don't see a lot of light in your tunnel.
It's more let's hope the young guys continue to improve.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

Melville wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:26 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

1. Fire The Marmot and entire staff - disgraceful how unprepared the team is to play baseball.
2. Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar (3 years too late), Herrera (yes, I am right about this as well - he is not who many have been fooled into believing and the time to move him is now, when other organizations may be equally fooled), and Walker.
3. If N/A refuses to be traded again, let him know he is the 26th man on the roster and play him accordingly.
4. Enter 2026 with an outfield of Donovan in LF, Scott in CF (on a short leash), and Burleson in RF - and add a high quality ASG level RH bat to the mix.
5. Gorman, Winn, Wetherholt, Saggese to handle 3B/22/2B.
6. Contreras at 1B.
7. Pages / Pozo return - but being pushed by Crooks (Note: if STL's reported interest in Murphy is real, it might be worth investigating further - I can provide the added perfect analysis later in the thread if requested).
8. Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy can make up 3 of the 5 rotation spots for 2026, but the team will need to add 2 more arms (one of which could be acquired this month from Miami).
9. Mathews should be ready to take some turns in the #6 rotation spot and Doyle should be on track for some time in 2027.
Bottom line.
The team is ridiculously easy to fix.
I could do so in less than 30 days - as could anyone who understands this game.
All that is required is the intelligence and the will.
Mo possesses neither.
We shall see if Bloom does.

Jatalk wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 11:57 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

Are you ignoring the Arenado situation? If he is still here no room for JJ. If JJ is ready I’m trading Winn. Might do regardless of NA. You are stuck with Gorman to plug in at third. Not ideal. Winn could and should get a high return. Could be part of the outfield solution by trading him for young stud.

Bully4you wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:37 am

Melville wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 09:26 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jul 2025 07:25 am Good morning.

Imagine a job that requires you to take a year to observe the company, then gives you full control on moves based on your assessments. Heaven.

As we sit on the eve of game 100, I believe, we can see some trends. No longer early.

Pitching. A very decent assortment of young arms moving forward. I think McG and Pallante stick, but Pallante is what NCAA basketball would call as - last man in. He’s dangling. His future in STL depends on his next ten starts.
Doyle. How quick. 2027?

Infield. I keep Donovan at second. GG caliber, league leading hitter. You trade him, you won’t get his play in return. Some players you just don’t trade. He’s one.

Winn. Keeper. When he grows up more, shots to right center will become common. Think Edgar.

Third. JJ nothing better. GG power bat at the corner.

First. Several can play it. Not a point of contention except for lack of power.

Catchers- minors.

Outfield. Scott stays. When he grows, his bat will play for average. Defense is second to none.

Left and right. A mess. This is where Bloom needs to excel. Corner outfield. If that includes Walker fine, but he too is hanging by the short hairs.

What does he do. Bloom. One league level Ace. One thumper in corner outfield spot. One up and coming pitcher- Doyle?

I think other than the NTC, several will exit stage right both at deadline and off season.

As expected in a scenario like this.

Thoughts

1. Fire The Marmot and entire staff - disgraceful how unprepared the team is to play baseball.
2. Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar (3 years too late), Herrera (yes, I am right about this as well - he is not who many have been fooled into believing and the time to move him is now, when other organizations may be equally fooled), and Walker.
3. If N/A refuses to be traded again, let him know he is the 26th man on the roster and play him accordingly.
4. Enter 2026 with an outfield of Donovan in LF, Scott in CF (on a short leash), and Burleson in RF - and add a high quality ASG level RH bat to the mix.
5. Gorman, Winn, Wetherholt, Saggese to handle 3B/22/2B.
6. Contreras at 1B.
7. Pages / Pozo return - but being pushed by Crooks (Note: if STL's reported interest in Murphy is real, it might be worth investigating further - I can provide the added perfect analysis later in the thread if requested).
8. Gray, Liberatore, and McGreevy can make up 3 of the 5 rotation spots for 2026, but the team will need to add 2 more arms (one of which could be acquired this month from Miami).
9. Mathews should be ready to take some turns in the #6 rotation spot and Doyle should be on track for some time in 2027.
Bottom line.
The team is ridiculously easy to fix.
I could do so in less than 30 days - as could anyone who understands this game.
All that is required is the intelligence and the will.
Mo possesses neither.
We shall see if Bloom does.

The changes you outlined won't cut it Mel.
That team won't win squat again in 2026.
It's a continued rebuild, that's about it.
Which if they don't want to spend may be all that can be done.
I don't see a lot of light in your tunnel.
It's more let's hope the young guys continue to improve.