Blues Ranked 20th in offseason moves

[a smell of green grass]

The Blues have won 30 more games than any other team in the Western Conference since DA became GM in 2010. Don't kill the messenger.
Do I agree with all of his moves? No. Does he have more information and knowledge about this team and its prospects than anyone on this board? Yes.

So are you saying that you don't want to hear what others think, good or bad?

[Nublues69]

Winning the offseason is not the same as winning the regular season. Some need the accompanying study aid.

Then why start a thread focusing on how other view our offseason?
You wasted your time...and you look foolish doing it.

I think his life is so pathetic that he just comes up with every single way to get a reaction out of people for attention cause he secretly has no job lives off his mom and lives in her basement. Probably has him mom tuck him in at night as well

LOL

[a smell of green grass]

Winning the offseason is not the same as winning the regular season. Some need the accompanying study aid.

Then why start a thread focusing on how other view our offseason?
You wasted your time...and you look foolish doing it.

I think his life is so pathetic that he just comes up with every single way to get a reaction out of people for attention cause he secretly has no job lives off his mom and lives in her basement. Probably has him mom tuck him in at night as well

LOL

I doubt that anyone cares.. However, I'm doing exceptionally well in life. That said, life is not about circumstance or money or privilege. What I live for is to improve in every way.

My goal on here is to make BluesTalkers aware of where the team is, and how the teams needs to change to improve. Just me being me.

[Harry S Deals]

Hmm Zack Bolduc isnt a question mark? Odd opinion to have based on the reality of Bolduc's career so far:

AHL 54 GP 8 goals.....
NHL '23-'24 25 GP 5 goals 4 assists (three goals in three games 4/7-12)
NHL '24-25' 72 GP 19 goals 17 assists (0 Goals first 19 GAMES PLAYED; 19 Goals in 55 GAMES PLAYED ALL UNDER MONTY) 7 PPGs...
NHL '24-'25 PLAYOFFS 0 Goals in 7 games

That screams question mark to some degree unless like i said he can bring Monty with him to Montreal. Does Bolduc click with St Louis as HC is Dach a good enough center.
Will Bolduc get #1 unit PP time or will he get reduced 2nd unit PP time.
I've said i think Bolduc will be a lock for 20-25 goals in the NHL this season, next season who cares.
Once Mailloux settles in to his NHL career in St Louis this is a big trade win for Army because all things being equal in the NHL the big, RHD has far more value than another LW which the Blues franchise is loaded with already. No brainer

[rangergiff]

Hmm Zack Bolduc isnt a question mark? Odd opinion to have based on the reality of Bolduc's career so far:

AHL 54 GP 8 goals.....
NHL '23-'24 25 GP 5 goals 4 assists (three goals in three games 4/7-12)
NHL '24-25' 72 GP 19 goals 17 assists (0 Goals first 19 GAMES PLAYED; 19 Goals in 55 GAMES PLAYED ALL UNDER MONTY) 7 PPGs...
NHL '24-'25 PLAYOFFS 0 Goals in 7 games

That screams question mark to some degree unless like i said he can bring Monty with him to Montreal. Does Bolduc click with St Louis as HC is Dach a good enough center.
Will Bolduc get #1 unit PP time or will he get reduced 2nd unit PP time.
I've said i think Bolduc will be a lock for 20-25 goals in the NHL this season, next season who cares.
Once Mailloux settles in to his NHL career in St Louis this is a big trade win for Army because all things being equal in the NHL the big, RHD has far more value than another LW which the Blues franchise is loaded with already. No brainer

This is as good an answer as there is to give. I loved Bolduc. But on a team that has plenty of wingers, he was worth the risk to pick up a likely top 4D and a win. If L.M manages to be a top 2D then this is an big win for the Blues.

[DawgDad]

No, actually it means other teams perhaps made bigger splashes in the water. Some will still be treading water.

I confirmed in my 2nd grade math book. "-1" is moving backward on a continuum.

If you read the summary, they thought the Mailloux trade was a big risk, potentially a very bad idea.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's behind WHAT they think. Army is the leading expert on what is best for the Blues. All trades entail risk, even the Monteal end with Bolduc.

[a smell of green grass]

I agree that there is risk on both sides of this deal.

What I do not agree with is that coming to the conclusion that Army made a good decision because we have lots of wingers, and we need.a RHD.

Army made a good deal IF
- Mailloux is a top 4 defenseman AND
- Bolduc is NOT more than a middle-six winger

If Mailloux is not TOP 4 defenseman, we should have gotten more for Bolduc, AND what is wrong with the Blues pro scout's evaluation process?
If Bolduc is a TOP line winger, we should have gotten more for Bolduc.

I also do not agree with treating the desperate need for an elite RHD like a pothole in the road that Army is blameless for. Army chose to "stay competitive in 2023" and shunned a TOP5 pick. The re-whatever should have produced a 2C AND and RHD for the long-term. We got neither! Our re-whatever was a complete DUD.

[Army's Mom]

The experts claimed the Predators won the off season last summer, how'd that end up?

Came here to say exactly this.

[dhsux]

Winning the offseason is not the same as winning the regular season. Some need the accompanying study aid.

Then why start a thread focusing on how other view our offseason?
You wasted your time...and you look foolish doing it.

Yes the gang that can't shoot straight that 28 other teams haven't matched since '19.

I should have known better.

Tacos from here on.

[seattleblue]

When is the victory parade for the collective conventional wisdom of 32 JRs?

I love how each player gets his turn with this piece of paper and how they each get to skate around with it over their heads.

I grew up wanting a jersey with my favorite 32 JRs and their opinions

[Backesdraft]

I agree that there is risk on both sides of this deal.

What I do not agree with is that coming to the conclusion that Army made a good decision because we have lots of wingers, and we need.a RHD.

Army made a good deal IF
- Mailloux is a top 4 defenseman AND
- Bolduc is NOT more than a middle-six winger

If Mailloux is not TOP 4 defenseman, we should have gotten more for Bolduc, AND what is wrong with the Blues pro scout's evaluation process?
If Bolduc is a TOP line winger, we should have gotten more for Bolduc.

I also do not agree with treating the desperate need for an elite RHD like a pothole in the road that Army is blameless for. Army chose to "stay competitive in 2023" and shunned a TOP5 pick. The re-whatever should have produced a 2C AND and RHD for the long-term. We got neither! Our re-whatever was a complete DUD.

What you just can’t seem to grasp, or simply won’t acknowledge, is that you lost credibility so long ago nothing you post anymore matters. Your knowledge is laughable and your agenda is so transparent as to be practically invisible. So, post away if ya want, but just know that not one person on this forum will have their opinion changed by someone who has proven time and time again to be hockey illiterate.

If it makes ya feel better to post this drivel day after day then nobody here can stop you, but again, just know it’ll have zero impact on anything or anyone.

Go outside. Get a job. Make a friend. Shoot, start a blog for like minded uneducated hockey fans to pontificate about their troublesome, Cup winning and Gold Medal having, GMs. Maybe you’ll find whatever it is you’re looking for.

But you’re a failure on this forum fella. Cut your losses and start over somewhere else.

[somni]

Breaking: Trades are risky......news at a 11.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Reinbacher was the first dman taken in the '23 draft (#5 overall). He might be a very good player some day. So far, he hasn't played a game in the NHL. He has played 21 games in the AHL.
The Blues picked Dvorsky (possibly future 2C, Stenberg (trending well), and Lindstein (possible future top 4 dman) in the 1st round of that same draft.
The '23 draft is the one our OP is lamenting because we did not tank at the end to get a top 5 pick that would have changed our retool drastically. Put Reinbacher in our system instead of Dvorsky and how much better are we?

[STL fan in MN]

Oh look, another nothing article where the OP cherry picks part of it to fit his agenda.

And while I don’t have much respect for Dom’s work, at least he put in this disclaimer:

St. Louis’ placement here is not a product of what seems like a decent summer, but rather the lack of a projection for Logan Mailloux. The young defender played just seven chaotic games for Montreal last year and it wouldn’t be fair to judge what he can do based on that data. In theory, he’s the exact kind of defender the Blues need: one who can bring a lot of offense from the blue line.

If Mailloux can be as impactful as Bolduc already is, the Blues would shoot up considerably.

So basically he’s saying his model is penalizing the Blues for removing Bolduc from their roster but Mailloux didn’t play enough games last season to factor into his model so it resulted in a -1. It means pretty much nothing. It’s a nothing summer filler article.

Sometimes it’s better to use critical thinking skills over just “blues ranked 20th in some math model that may or may not be able to factor in everything.”

[dr0zombie]

I agree that there is risk on both sides of this deal.

What I do not agree with is that coming to the conclusion that Army made a good decision because we have lots of wingers, and we need.a RHD.

Army made a good deal IF
- Mailloux is a top 4 defenseman AND
- Bolduc is NOT more than a middle-six winger

If Mailloux is not TOP 4 defenseman, we should have gotten more for Bolduc, AND what is wrong with the Blues pro scout's evaluation process?
If Bolduc is a TOP line winger, we should have gotten more for Bolduc.

I also do not agree with treating the desperate need for an elite RHD like a pothole in the road that Army is blameless for. Army chose to "stay competitive in 2023" and shunned a TOP5 pick. The re-whatever should have produced a 2C AND and RHD for the long-term. We got neither! Our re-whatever was a complete DUD.

The problem is you begin with flawed assumptions.

The writer gave this all a big "IF". That's to say he wants to protect himself in the strong likelihood his rating is too low.

You projecting Bolduc as a top six makes the trade equal value if both players work. If Bolduc is a great defensive player, but remains a mostly 3rd line guy then the Blues actually won the trade.

Right now the Blues made that bet and until there are results all the typical haters of this team will just hate on a Wednesday.

[DawgDad]

The experts claimed the Predators won the off season last summer, how'd that end up?

Came here to say exactly this.

They became a fun foe to watch get beat up last season, though it was a shame to see ROR tail off like he did.