Mozeliak hasn't done a "deep dive" into ticket sales and broadcast rights revenue

[desertrat23]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

He is not the CEO. He is President of Baseball Operations. The business side of the organization is not his purview. That would be the DeWitts. It doesn’t really matter to Mo where his budget comes from.

Absolutely he knows and cares. I’m not in Sales, but as a leader in my company you can be sure I know how we’re doing revenue-wise for the month/quarter/year and how it impacts my line of business. That’s just being responsible.

[Red7]

Do you want the sales guys coming over and watching how you crunch the books? Stay in your lane. Mo (and any other GM/POBO) has enough to do running the baseball side of things.

[Clubmaker2]

never understood the lie that would make you an incompetent boob. No respect for the audience is how.

such baloney, this guy has to have plans for team salary, infrastructure , etc and has to have budget estimates in hand for this year and next to plan. To argue he would not know is laughable. He is basically the face of the ownership group and has been there many years, would know everything to be able to be involved in planning. Given that the gm/pobo give multi year contracts, the idea they dont have future financial estimates lol.....

[ScotchMIrish]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

He is not the CEO. He is President of Baseball Operations. The business side of the organization is not his purview. That would be the DeWitts. It doesn’t really matter to Mo where his budget comes from.

Thank you. I incorrectly assumed Mozeliak was running it all. I'm guessing during the all star break he and Bloom will sit down with the business side and discuss the situation.

The story was a bit misleading. "He - referring to Mozeliak - hasn't done a deep dive" means he hasn't talked to the business side about the financials.

[CorneliusWolfe]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

It was not a truthful statement.
He was deflecting from a uncomfortable truth that he did not want to get into.
Untruths and deflection.
You should not be surprised.

This is an obvious truthful statement.

[Absolut]

He’s an (donkey)(pit).

[BrockFloodMaris]

MO’s personality does not endear himself to a fanbase.
I had a non-baseball friend watch/listen to a Mo interview and had him give me feedback.
His first comment was.. he uses doublespeak.
Does not come across as honest. He seems smug, not a guy a fan would have a beer with.

His responses seemed to coincide with many posters on CT

The. I showed him in-game interview of Brewer POBO Matt Arnold
MLB executive of year. Comments were: Believable, fan Friendly ,
Doesn’t [nonsense] , sense of humor, gives credit to his scouts, analytic group, etc. Not about him but a group effort.

Agree 100%. Along with a new front office, the Cards need a new PR firm and a new marketing firm. As POBO, Mo might not get to see the full P&L. He’s not CEO, nor is he president of business operations. I’m sure he can see it if he asks, but he is probably given a budget to manage.

He’s definitely given a budget, but he’s more than simply a department head. He knows enough of their revenue picture to know what’s really going on. This is especially true when you consider how long he’s been there and how entrenched he is.

Of course he does. But the Cards are a private corporation. Mo does not have authority to speak publicly about their P&L, however much of it he knows about.

[Clubmaker2]

MO’s personality does not endear himself to a fanbase.
I had a non-baseball friend watch/listen to a Mo interview and had him give me feedback.
His first comment was.. he uses doublespeak.
Does not come across as honest. He seems smug, not a guy a fan would have a beer with.

His responses seemed to coincide with many posters on CT

The. I showed him in-game interview of Brewer POBO Matt Arnold
MLB executive of year. Comments were: Believable, fan Friendly ,
Doesn’t [nonsense] , sense of humor, gives credit to his scouts, analytic group, etc. Not about him but a group effort.

Agree 100%. Along with a new front office, the Cards need a new PR firm and a new marketing firm. As POBO, Mo might not get to see the full P&L. He’s not CEO, nor is he president of business operations. I’m sure he can see it if he asks, but he is probably given a budget to manage.

He’s definitely given a budget, but he’s more than simply a department head. He knows enough of their revenue picture to know what’s really going on. This is especially true when you consider how long he’s been there and how entrenched he is.

Of course he does. But the Cards are a private corporation. Mo does not have authority to speak publicly about their P&L, however much of it he knows about.

unless they are telling you they are too poor and must kiss off the 2025 season and do a reset. Only makes sense they are going to get asked when does the reset end.

And wouldnt trust for the truth anyway, if they have some money increase etc, they may want to not admit how the budget lays out and pocket more cash. They will always paint a bleak picture to stay uncommitted.

[Rojo Johnson]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

It was not a truthful statement.
He was deflecting from a uncomfortable truth that he did not want to get into.
Untruths and deflection.
You should not be surprised.

Tell me, Melville. Have you accomplished as much in your life as Mo has? Cranny wants to know in order to determine whether he will permit you to criticize Mo. He asked for similar bona fides from me yesterday. I told him to go fork himself. He thinks any criticism of the FO must go through him for approval.

[WLTFE]

He’s an (donkey)(pit).

You will be hearing from the front office (donkey) kissers on your nasty opinion of our Mo-ran!

[Goldfan]

The man has helped destroy a 25 yr sellout given of 3+million fans into Busch each summer in Baseball crazy STL.
Can ANYONE think of a greater failure in business?? This isn’t changing tech or someone in leadership died……this is being given a turnkey Golden business where all you had to do was continue the current winning process and he and BDW decided they would put their own stamp on things, change it up, go cheap, hire a tee ball coach manager, a softball BP catcher, a Duke Pitching coach and who knows what minor league destruction that we couldn’t even see……they REALLLY had to go out their way to drive FANS away and they DID IT. Bravo

[cardsrmyteam]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

Another Mo'ism. September 28th can't get here fast enough. 78 days or so to go.

20,000 empty seats at $65 per average ticket times 81 games = $105M, plus concessions. $105M could really fix this team, but Mo don't know how to do that. Hopefully when he retires we will NEVER see him again.

[ScotchMIrish]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

Another Mo'ism. September 28th can't get here fast enough. 78 days or so to go.

20,000 empty seats at $65 per average ticket times 81 games = $105M, plus concessions. $105M could really fix this team, but Mo don't know how to do that. Hopefully when he retires we will NEVER see him again.

There is plenty of room to criticize Mozeliak for some historically bad trades and I've done so in the past. Regarding attendance the new TV contract is a major factor. Asking people to pay $20 a month for something that used to be part of their basic TV package has caused a lot of people to lose access to the Cardinals telecast and that is a major factor in reduced attendance. Having the games on TV is the best promotion possible.

The question then becomes was a better deal possible and who negotiated the new deal? Was it Mozeliak or ownership? Would providing games cheaper to cable and satellite providers allow them to put it in their basic packages and many more people could watch the games resulting in increased interest in the team and attendance? I don't have a definitive answer but I don't see things improving unless the TV deal changes. We averaged 30,000 for the Cubs series with the team in the running for a wild card. A lot of fans have lost interest.

[desertrat23]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinals


“I do think ownership, if they saw we were in a spot and it made sense to do something, I think they’d support it,” Mozeliak tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Mozeliak elaborated that he hasn’t done a “deep dive” into how ticket sales and the club’s broadcast deal have impacted things, but he expects ownership to invest in a contending club.

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That comment surprised me. He is essentially the CEO of the franchise and he doesn't know what the profit/loss looks like? Maybe he doesn't want to know or does he know but doesn't want to say?

Another Mo'ism. September 28th can't get here fast enough. 78 days or so to go.

20,000 empty seats at $65 per average ticket times 81 games = $105M, plus concessions. $105M could really fix this team, but Mo don't know how to do that. Hopefully when he retires we will NEVER see him again.

78 days…it might be time for an official “Get The F Out Of Our Lives, John Mozeliak” thread, similar to the magic number threads of yore…

[Baseball Savant]

Mo should know exactly where they stands as POBO.

Mo has less than 3 months left.

Hallelujah!