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82birds wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 21:59 pm

stanw wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 21:57 pm I believe that number is tickets sold, I don't think there was 15,000 butts in the seats.

yup
those figures are always tickets sold numbers

I estimated 10,000 - 12,000.
Also noticed how easy it was to hear Nat's fans cheering.

Usher I talked too during the game said, they were told in the pre-game meeting that tickets sold was around 20,000 but they were expecting no more than 12,000.

On plastic gold necklace night too.

Absolut wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:16 am On plastic gold necklace night too.

No kidding. What is the going rate on Ebay today for those cheesy trinkets?

I'm a diehard, and I just can't muster any excitement for the team. Who's the face of this team? Do we have one? Who's the player you're going to stop what you're doing and watch when the game's on?

We don't have one. Or anybody close to one.

There are many on this board who want significant change in organizational strategies.

This would seem like a good start.

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:31 am I'm a diehard, and I just can't muster any excitement for the team. Who's the face of this team? Do we have one? Who's the player you're going to stop what you're doing and watch when the game's on?

We don't have one. Or anybody close to one.

Exactly...remember staying even if the game was lousy, to watch Albert or Big Mac bat.

Was there

I literally walked right up to the front of the concession stand not once but twice, NO LINE!

I'd bet actual was in the 12-14,000 range.

Nice job BDWJr/Mo

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:36 am Was there

I literally walked right up to the front of the concession stand not once but twice, NO LINE!

I'd bet actual was in the 12-14,000 range.

Nice job BDWJr/Mo

Same. Very sad

Absolut wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:36 am Was there

I literally walked right up to the front of the concession stand not once but twice, NO LINE!

I'd bet actual was in the 12-14,000 range.

Nice job BDWJr/Mo

Same. Very sad

I mean parking is great, concession stand lines, bathroom and traffic but man the atmosphere (as you know) just isn't the same as it was before 2024.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:36 pm

Absolut wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:36 am Was there

I literally walked right up to the front of the concession stand not once but twice, NO LINE!

I'd bet actual was in the 12-14,000 range.

Nice job BDWJr/Mo

Same. Very sad

I mean parking is great, concession stand lines, bathroom and traffic but man the atmosphere (as you know) just isn't the same as it was before 2024.

Yup. I felt bad when John Ulett does his “welcome to baseball heaven” intro.

Absolut wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:37 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:36 pm

Absolut wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 13:34 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:36 am Was there

I literally walked right up to the front of the concession stand not once but twice, NO LINE!

I'd bet actual was in the 12-14,000 range.

Nice job BDWJr/Mo

Same. Very sad

I mean parking is great, concession stand lines, bathroom and traffic but man the atmosphere (as you know) just isn't the same as it was before 2024.

Yup. I felt bad when John Ulett does his “welcome to baseball heaven” intro.

This is going to sound bizarre, but the U-Man is an example of why they have an attendance problem.

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 08:31 am I'm a diehard, and I just can't muster any excitement for the team. Who's the face of this team? Do we have one? Who's the player you're going to stop what you're doing and watch when the game's on?

We don't have one. Or anybody close to one.

What goes around, comes around. This team is back where it was when Johnny Peralta was the star of the team. The person most in demand on the team was Fredbird.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 22:05 pm https://www.stlsportscentral.com/2025/0 ... iew-7-9-25

Guess Bernie addressed this today. The comparison to the Rockies should make everyone nauseous.

"The Cardinals have problems that the endless flow of TV-booth propaganda won’t solve. If anything, the constant Chuckle Hut party is turning viewers off" Bernie makes a lot of good points.

Competency aside part of fan support is based on how much they like or relate to the people and not just the players. Mo, Oli, the DeWitts, even the broadcast team are not people I would have over for dinner or grab a beer with. Ok maybe Chip but no way with the rest.

They don’t have anyone that you want to go to the ballpark and see. They don’t have a superstar, and they are an average team. No superstar, no 5-year postseason streak.

Team has missed the postseason the last two seasons and they don’t have a superstar. That’s a bad combo. At least those post-Pujols teams in the mid-2010s were very good teams and were always playing in October.

vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 15:13 pm They don’t have anyone that you want to go to the ballpark and see. They don’t have a superstar, and they are an average team. No superstar, no 5-year postseason streak.

Team has missed the postseason the last two seasons and they don’t have a superstar. That’s a bad combo. At least those post-Pujols teams in the mid-2010s were very good teams and were always playing in October.

Not only that, the ballpark experience is boring (thus my U-Man comment above). If you're a Vegas Cardinals fan, you're probably aware of the Golden Knights. Man, that's a party! It's loud, caters to a young, vibrant audience -- even if they don't win, you're entertained. If you want to do an interesting experience, go on YouTube and watch how starting lineups are introduced in Busch Stadium versus other parks. Busch's in-game experience feels like a library. Classic rock, boring graphics, nothing catering to casuals, just the old farts who still keep score.

They NEED casuals to decide to want to drive downtown and the experience is part of that.