And once they realize the numbers are not reported in the same manner as other major cities (e.g. Chicago), it helps them understand that moniker isn't completely accurate.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:59 pmI'd say the moniker of "murder capital of the United States" tends to scare people off.b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:43 pm It might be sometimes hard to get players to come to stL, but once they've played for the Blues you don't hear anything bad about being here ... just the opposite. Players like it here. I give Stillman, the executives, coaches, former players and people of stl credit. We don't have a beach or mountains or tax breaks ... so it's something about the vibe that players get from the community of people here. STL gets a bad rap that doesn't really fit the vast majority of what people experience here.
However, once they realize St. Louis isn't set up like other major cities, meaning they can live in Chesterfield, not worry about anything really, get to practice in 10 minutes, the airport in 5, and the arena in 20.
Once they experience all of that, all of a sudden St. Louis is a lot better city to live in.
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I thought sodhsux wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 16:13 pmAren't you two actually agreeing with each other?skilles wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 15:29 pmWhat part bothers you? The Borders of STL are drawn in a way where all the usual crime found in all cities is calculated in the crime rate but the mass population lives outside of the borders of city limits where large residential areas that are heavily populated and have relatively very little crime/murder are not figured in. The crime/murder rate can be greatly manipulated by the borders of the city and that is what has happened in STL.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 14:43 pmoh dear god.skilles wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 14:36 pmThat is such nonsense, the only difference in STL is how the borders are drawn and numbers calculated. I would never live in any city but they all have their good and bad areas. The only difference is how they draw the lines of what is considered the city.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:59 pmI'd say the moniker of "murder capital of the United States" tends to scare people off.b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:43 pm It might be sometimes hard to get players to come to stL, but once they've played for the Blues you don't hear anything bad about being here ... just the opposite. Players like it here. I give Stillman, the executives, coaches, former players and people of stl credit. We don't have a beach or mountains or tax breaks ... so it's something about the vibe that players get from the community of people here. STL gets a bad rap that doesn't really fit the vast majority of what people experience here.
However, once they realize St. Louis isn't set up like other major cities, meaning they can live in Chesterfield, not worry about anything really, get to practice in 10 minutes, the airport in 5, and the arena in 20.
Once they experience all of that, all of a sudden St. Louis is a lot better city to live in.
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My mistake I misread it when you started with that is such nonsense. Yes we are agreeing.skilles wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 16:18 pmI thought sodhsux wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 16:13 pmAren't you two actually agreeing with each other?skilles wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 15:29 pmWhat part bothers you? The Borders of STL are drawn in a way where all the usual crime found in all cities is calculated in the crime rate but the mass population lives outside of the borders of city limits where large residential areas that are heavily populated and have relatively very little crime/murder are not figured in. The crime/murder rate can be greatly manipulated by the borders of the city and that is what has happened in STL.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 14:43 pmoh dear god.skilles wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 14:36 pmThat is such nonsense, the only difference in STL is how the borders are drawn and numbers calculated. I would never live in any city but they all have their good and bad areas. The only difference is how they draw the lines of what is considered the city.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:59 pmI'd say the moniker of "murder capital of the United States" tends to scare people off.b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:43 pm It might be sometimes hard to get players to come to stL, but once they've played for the Blues you don't hear anything bad about being here ... just the opposite. Players like it here. I give Stillman, the executives, coaches, former players and people of stl credit. We don't have a beach or mountains or tax breaks ... so it's something about the vibe that players get from the community of people here. STL gets a bad rap that doesn't really fit the vast majority of what people experience here.
However, once they realize St. Louis isn't set up like other major cities, meaning they can live in Chesterfield, not worry about anything really, get to practice in 10 minutes, the airport in 5, and the arena in 20.
Once they experience all of that, all of a sudden St. Louis is a lot better city to live in.
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I've lived in the city for over 30 years. I grew up in first North County and then South. I can't imagine moving from the city (Maplewood maybe). The issue with the crime stats is that the city and county are different counties. Those stats are county level studies. Nearly every city includes both the suburban and urban areas. Now there are parts of the city that you wouldn't walk around at night as is there are parts of the county. I love the walkability of the area. I can walk to several great restaurants, bars etc.SRV1990 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 16:18 pmAnd once they realize the numbers are not reported in the same manner as other major cities (e.g. Chicago), it helps them understand that moniker isn't completely accurate.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:59 pmI'd say the moniker of "murder capital of the United States" tends to scare people off.b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025 13:43 pm It might be sometimes hard to get players to come to stL, but once they've played for the Blues you don't hear anything bad about being here ... just the opposite. Players like it here. I give Stillman, the executives, coaches, former players and people of stl credit. We don't have a beach or mountains or tax breaks ... so it's something about the vibe that players get from the community of people here. STL gets a bad rap that doesn't really fit the vast majority of what people experience here.
However, once they realize St. Louis isn't set up like other major cities, meaning they can live in Chesterfield, not worry about anything really, get to practice in 10 minutes, the airport in 5, and the arena in 20.
Once they experience all of that, all of a sudden St. Louis is a lot better city to live in.