Kershaw ASG???

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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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Is it a legend pick?

Because I wouldn't be shocked if Clayton packed 'em in after this season now that he's got his 3000 K's.

He probably should. Fella just can't stay healthy anymore.
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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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It’s really weird to get upset over a legacy pick.
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Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Absolut wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:20 pm Refuse to get fired about about a game I won’t watch, That doesn’t count.
I don't see an indication of anyone being "fired up" - other than on the part of some who claim not to care about the game.
I simply made the perfectly accurate analysis that Kershaw does not belong based on performance this year - and several who are deserving were denied.
Not sure why anyone would object to a provably accurate assessment.
You still don't seem to get the idea of baseball being irrevocably tied to its history -- and the nostalgia that evokes. Kershaw has been a large part of that history. And it's just the exhibition ASG. Leave it to the Dodgers to decide whether he should be playing in real games.
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Didn't Pujols make it his last year batting like .200 at the break?
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Strummer Jones wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Is it a legend pick?

Because I wouldn't be shocked if Clayton packed 'em in after this season now that he's got his 3000 K's.

He probably should. Fella just can't stay healthy anymore.
Legacy pick by Manfred.
In other words, an admission it is a pick without 2025 merit.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:15 pm Didn't Pujols make it his last year batting like .200 at the break?
Pujols and Cabrera were "legacy" appointments by the commissioner in 2022.
He is pulling the same marketing stunt with Kershaw.
Has nothing at all to do with the game of baseball.
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Swuhgen wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:42 pm It’s really weird to get upset over a legacy pick.
Indeed.
Are you upset?
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Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:32 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:15 pm Didn't Pujols make it his last year batting like .200 at the break?
Pujols and Cabrera were "legacy" appointments by the commissioner in 2022.
He is pulling the same marketing stunt with Kershaw.
Has nothing at all to do with the game of baseball.
I will say that whatever Pujols "found" at the ASG worked

2022 post ASG: .323/.388/.715
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:36 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:32 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:15 pm Didn't Pujols make it his last year batting like .200 at the break?
Pujols and Cabrera were "legacy" appointments by the commissioner in 2022.
He is pulling the same marketing stunt with Kershaw.
Has nothing at all to do with the game of baseball.
I will say that whatever Pujols "found" at the ASG worked

2022 post ASG: .323/.388/.715
Changed his diet, as I recall.
He ate meatballs nearly exclusively after the ASG.
Great timing on his part.
Managed to squeak across the 700 HR threshold just before the season - and his career - ended.
It was a great.....marketing campaign.
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icon wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.
You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.
+1 for someone who claims to know about baseball he seems utterly clueless about something that has happened multiple times
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icon wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.
You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.
I thought Melville was the first to suggest the Legacy pick
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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm
icon wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.
You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.
I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.
Not to mention the dodgers already have 4 other spots so theres no need to have more undeserving ones when other teams only have 1 representative
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Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:39 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:36 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:32 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:15 pm Didn't Pujols make it his last year batting like .200 at the break?
Pujols and Cabrera were "legacy" appointments by the commissioner in 2022.
He is pulling the same marketing stunt with Kershaw.
Has nothing at all to do with the game of baseball.
I will say that whatever Pujols "found" at the ASG worked

2022 post ASG: .323/.388/.715
Changed his diet, as I recall.
He ate meatballs nearly exclusively after the ASG.
Great timing on his part.
Managed to squeak across the 700 HR threshold just before the season - and his career - ended.
It was a great.....marketing campaign.
Marketed well to me! I spent thousands on Pujols memorabilia
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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
icon wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.
You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.
+1 for someone who claims to know about baseball he seems utterly clueless about something that has happened multiple times
It's Sunday night...he's alone and started an 'attention whore' thread...and he'll argue with everyone. Easy Obvious Correct.
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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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Absolut wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:20 pm Refuse to get fired about about a game I won’t watch, That doesn’t count.
I won't watch the Klown Show either.
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Re: Kershaw ASG???

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Wattage wrote: 06 Jul 2025 18:44 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:17 pm
icon wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
Melville wrote: 06 Jul 2025 17:01 pm Kershaw has played in only 9 games and is averaging fewer than 5 innings per start.
3.43 ERA; 1.254 WHIP, and just 6.4 K/9.
Not remotely deserving of making the squad - yet there he is (courtesy of a corrupt appointment on the part of Manfred).
Quite a few pitchers who are far, far more worthy.
Gray is one of them: 17 starts; 1.080 WHIP, 9.6 K/9 - while averaging a full inning more per game.
There are easily a dozen similar examples.
You don't understand legacy status when it comes to the ASG. You'd think by now, you would know that.
I referenced that in my post.
Perhaps you missed that?
I understand it with perfection - which is why I am opposed to it.
This is the 2025 ASG - and Kershaw has not earned it.
"Legacy" recognition belongs in the HOF.
Not on the field.
Not to mention the dodgers already have 4 other spots so theres no need to have more undeserving ones when other teams only have 1 representative
No question it is a payoff to the Dodgers.
Marketing at the expense of integrity is killing MLB.
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